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xswimordiex

07-09-2005, 10:25 PM

well i dunno how many how to's of this there is but not on this site really, so i thought i'd try one out.

so you wanna black out your headlights? i did too. first you're gonna need some equipment. all you're gonna need is a 8mm socket, 10mm socket, screwdriver(flat and phillips), an oven, and some paint. i used this kinda paint
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/2770/july4th0618gj.th.jpg (http://img205.echo.cx/my.php?image=july4th0618gj.jpg).
it's Rustoleum hi temp flat black barbeque paint. make sure you get a high temp paint...you dont want those catching fire! dunno if it gets hot enough, but just to be safe.

ok so to get the headlights off you have to take off the bumper. it's pretty straightforward but there's some tricky parts. unbolt the mudguards on the bottom and the two 10mm bolts attaching it to the undercarriage. then get up under the fender well and unbolt the two 10mm bolts attaching it to the fenders. unscrew the screws along the top of the bumper grill area. now before you try to pull off the bumper make sure you push in the little tabs under the outer part of the headlight, you can push em down with a thin flathead screwdriver. it looks like this close up...
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/8340/july4th0702sa.jpg
and it's located right here on the headlight
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/9965/july4th0750jf.jpg

so the bumper should come right off after that. don't worry about taking all the fog light and turn light stuff off, you can just rest the bumper right in front of the car like so....
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/9858/july4th0779vg.jpg

so after that is off you can start unbolting the headlights. there are three 10mm bolts holding it to the frame. before you pull it off though take off the bumper support brackets from the bumper support beam. otherwise it'll be tough to get the lights out. that thing looks like this...
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/1563/july4th0761nv.jpg

make sure you unplug all the lights first! then the headlight should come right out!
ok next step, getting the light ready for the ez bake oven. the oven heats the urethane or whatever it is that holds the lens on, and makes it easy to take apart.
you dont need to take too much off just the rubber thing that goes around the low beam and that thing with the tab that holds the bumper on i mentioned earlier. also take out this little screw...
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/7973/july4th0696tz.jpg
that screw holds in that side of the lens, so easy to take it off while it's still cool.
ok it's ready!
get your oven to 200, shouldn't take long. get a cookie sheet and put a small towel on it, and put your headlight on that. then just plop it in the oven for 10 minutes
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/7521/july4th0661by.jpg

after the 10 minutes is up pull it out (wear gloves! mecanix or the home depot ones i have, cuz the light will be hot!) now to get the light apart just use some flathead screwdrivers and gently pry it loose from the tabs and apart from the housing. be patient here or you'll put some dents in the housing. so once that's completely off, you just have to unscrew the two screws holding the bezel onto the lens.

now comes the long part. sanding. i used a foam 150 grit pad to get the majority and then a scotch brite to get those fun little spots that are hard to get to.
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/3552/july4th0644bj.jpg

so once the lights are all nice and scuffed and smooth, make sure they are clean. then you paint them! i put a few coats. just make sure it's all coated and not to paint too fast or you'll make it run. and let the paint dry a little inbetween coats. then place em in the sun but out of wind for like 30 minutes or so if using the rustoleum
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/8828/july4th0609hm.jpg

so once they are dry enough to touch, put em back into the lens and screw em back on. then place them back on the bezel and push em as far as they'll go and put them back into the oven at 200degrees for like 5 minutes. take em out and push the lens all the way on. here's me pushing...
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/1307/july4th0673ut.jpg
make sure it's sealed all the way around like this!
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/7828/july4th0684cm.jpg
aint that pretty.

so after that you just put everything back on. dont forget that small screw that holds the edge of the lens on. and make sure you dont have spare parts and then take pictures to show everyone!
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/34/july4th0807xt.jpg

so all in all it took about a total of 4 hours or so cuz i had food halfway through. but i am very pleased with the results. hope you guys enjoy!

ps. i'm not responsible for anyone blowing up houses, cars, or any bad stuff like that. this is how i did it. you can copy me if you want.

DE31

07-09-2005, 10:37 PM

somebody please move this to the How-To section. i need this in the future thanks!!!

mountjonas

07-09-2005, 10:44 PM

Thanks for posting the how-to. The other one kept getting taken away for drama reasons un-known to me.

Be careful of the clip on the side of the headlight holding the bumper, i snapped one of mine when i did this.

DE31

07-09-2005, 10:45 PM

what they should do is move it to the how-to section then lock it so no one does any of those dramatic stuff....Thanks for posting the how-to. The other one kept getting taken away for drama reasons un-known to me.

bradicus18

07-09-2005, 10:57 PM

Whoo hooo! I was just looking for this the other day. (alright)

xswimordiex

07-09-2005, 11:02 PM

yea i thought i'd post it here so all the p5'ers could see it first. maybe a mod could move it for me, i dont think i can.

DE31

07-09-2005, 11:03 PM

on second thought. leave it here for us P5ers only. heh heh heh. (first)

xswimordiex

07-09-2005, 11:04 PM

he he yea at least our cars can look faster! i noticed more pull in the mid to top end. :rolleyes:

Strata

07-10-2005, 04:04 AM

Finally! another one this is a gift from GOD!..who drives a MP5 btw

bradicus18

07-10-2005, 09:46 AM

(redp5) Yup definately think it will add 5-10 whp. Plus the extra weight of the paint will help w/traction!!!

DeadGeneration

07-10-2005, 01:08 PM

http://www.clubatenza.com/galleries/displayimage.php?album=80&pos=8

Mine came like this (first)

boo-boo

07-10-2005, 04:35 PM

someday im gonna do that one....... i did the same thing to my fogs.....doesnt look to bad....i think i have a pic somewhere

as you can see blacked out and still not to bad...imo

InFlames

07-10-2005, 04:42 PM

Nice write up.

xswimordiex

07-10-2005, 08:01 PM

is this worthy of a how to sticky?

AbsoluteSwed

07-10-2005, 11:01 PM

i would say so

JOS3

07-11-2005, 08:09 AM

you DO NOT have to use high temp paint. the original sticky used a regular semi-gloss black and this is what ive found looks best. not too dull or glossy, but just right.

trbomp5

07-11-2005, 10:44 AM

Good write up. A few suggestions; the old how-to had more pics of the bumper removal. Some peope might have problems with that. And secondly, you mentioned that you took off the metal clips after you heated up the light. I took mine off first, much easier when its still cold and you dont have to worry about messing up the hot plastic.

redwagon02

07-11-2005, 11:05 AM

thread moved--

eyeguy

08-06-2005, 02:57 PM

One more little thing. DO NOT hold the part you are painting by the little screw attachment!! That damn thing broke on me just now. Have some super glue handy if you break it. Easy fix. Easier to just not make my mistake.

Strata

08-15-2005, 02:55 AM

alrighty, I got some 60 grit sand paper...would this be too rough to use or should I just go out and get some 150 grit like the write up recommends..also anyone have a how to with pics of taking off the bumper, im prolly going to do this next week but I dont wanna break the bumper tab things! if you got pics plz help

JOS3

08-15-2005, 07:52 AM

60 may be a little too rough. just go get some 180 grit. you dont even really need to sand it all that well. you just need some fine sandpaper to scuff up the chrome piece.

LapisBlueProteg

08-15-2005, 07:58 AM

there was a how to on this as i did mine almost 2 yrs ago!

AODfan

08-15-2005, 01:55 PM

there was a how to on this as i did mine almost 2 yrs ago!

Yea but it was removed, so this is its replacement now.

digitalricepape

08-23-2005, 07:28 PM

wow i just did this diy and followed xswimordiex's how-to step by step, and i have to say i love the outcome. if anybody's contemplatin on whether to do it or not, i say definitely do it. the only pita was takin off the front bumper, but once that's off it shouldnt be all that bad. theres a pic of it in my sig. just my two cents :)

HFD45

08-28-2005, 07:01 PM

wont this mod cause your front headlights to fog up and have some major condensation because your cracking the seal between the front and back housings of the light? correct me if im wrong b/c when i did autobody i know eveytime someone cracked their lense housing it would condensate....just wanna double check b/c this b4 i attempted...black on black would look hot

redwagon02

08-28-2005, 07:27 PM

no, no problems w/ my lights. I did this mod years ago.

DE31

08-28-2005, 07:41 PM

well you do reseal it when your done. after your done painting and you reassemble you throw it back into the oven to remelt the glue and push it together again. if you are still paranoid i heard some people use silicone to reaseal it.wont this mod cause your front headlights to fog up and have some major condensation because your cracking the seal between the front and back housings of the light? correct me if im wrong b/c when i did autobody i know eveytime someone cracked their lense housing it would condensate....just wanna double check b/c this b4 i attempted...black on black would look hot

HFD45

08-28-2005, 08:47 PM

yea thats true, it doesnt really come dowin to paranoia its more like being a perfectionist knowing its on my car.....but yea silicone would deff solve any leaking issue if reasembling goes wrong. Thanks guys!

WetsuitxNinja

08-31-2005, 10:58 PM

The hardest part was trying to get the bumper off. I was looking for the mystery screws to drop the bumper. I was looking for them more towards the front of the car, but then I found them hiding in the fender at towards the top of it. I ended up breaking the secrete lock under the light though, but it went together and was unnoticable so if you break them, its not the end of the world. Great write up, I would have been stuck w\ chrome lights forever w\out it. I dont have the balls to venture out and do it myself. I needed the reassurance of directions

Phoenix5

09-26-2005, 12:23 PM

Sweet!I'll probably need this in the future.

WetsuitxNinja

09-30-2005, 10:39 PM

Black on White pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Nofriends/IMGP1130.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Nofriends/IMGP1132.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Nofriends/IMGP1131.jpg

ProtoType5

10-06-2005, 07:10 PM

What's up, Thanks for the great write up on this....It looks freakin hot on the midnight blue....It took me a while to get the bumper off, but after that it was smooth...Sanding and painting took me a loooong time, but I'm a perfectionist and got the results I needed to be happy. 3 coats of primer and 3 coats of paint later and I'm satisfied...at 3:30 in the morning took them for a ride. The first day it rained I got freaked with a little vapor in the light near the turn signal, but it hasn't come back and it's rained buckets since then.

WetsuitxNinja

10-07-2005, 12:57 AM

I was lazy the second time around and didnt sand it at all, looks purrrrrfect.

Johnnybass

10-07-2005, 03:01 PM

Johnnybass

10-07-2005, 03:02 PM

WetsuitxNinja

10-08-2005, 12:39 AM

JDM-P5

10-08-2005, 09:42 AM

Ive thought about getting overlays for the fogs, probably will when $ isnt too tight. Im bout over the damn amber driving lights, and I have a few cans of black spray paint with their names on it I think
Headlights & bumper lights:
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/jdm-p5/CIMG0008.JPG
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/jdm-p5/RedCalipers2.JPG
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/jdm-p5/Backside2.JPG

Tails:
http://www.mazda3club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4369
http://www.mazda3club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4366

-Phil

WetsuitxNinja

10-09-2005, 05:57 PM

Your car was the reason I began thinkin about it JDM, good stuff for sure.

DeadGeneration

10-09-2005, 06:16 PM

Headlights & bumper lights:
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/jdm-p5/CIMG0008.JPG
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/jdm-p5/RedCalipers2.JPG
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/jdm-p5/Backside2.JPG

Tails:
http://www.mazda3club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4369
http://www.mazda3club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4366

-Phil

What did you use for the tail lights, and do you have any decent pics of the tails on the car, so I can see what it looks like entirely.

AODfan

10-10-2005, 01:14 AM

i still need to do this.....

ghost

10-28-2005, 07:35 PM

No one took away the original How-to. Our website changed name and it changed with it. No one has pmed me at all letting me know this.

Here is the link to the original sticky.
http://pro-tuner.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586

Bob Loblaw

11-12-2005, 11:37 PM

Cool mod indeed. Have any of you guys (who have done it a while ago) had any problems since then? I know condensation was mentioned in the thread and it wasn't a problem for some of you guys but maybe others have had issues? What about the paint flaking?

WetsuitxNinja

11-13-2005, 12:10 AM

Just finished raining for a bit here, no fogging lenses. paint looks good still

PlatinumMSP

12-28-2005, 02:21 PM

the msp dosnt have chrome on the headlight housing, so can i just paint directly on top of the grey?

JDM-P5

12-28-2005, 05:23 PM

I still clean it up nice with some rubbing alcohol and then air dry.
You may want to primer it. I did.

Problem:
'Bama & it's humidity = sealing woes....my lights are starting to come apart.
Sub-problem:
After rain or car washing etc. I have to deal w/condensation.
Solution:
Take them back out and throw 'em back in the oven. Clamp 'em down & as an extra measure, use some water proof silicone seal.

Otherwise, when another P5 owner w/the stock chromies on sees the all black I catch them staring...or maybe it's because the wagon is just "different" overall...who knows...lol.

JDM-P5

12-28-2005, 05:25 PM

BTW, I used the same paint for the tails...just thinner, lighter coats.

PlatinumMSP

12-29-2005, 08:38 PM

do the same bumper removal instructions apply to the MSP?

vcinsanity1523

01-01-2006, 03:58 AM

do the same bumper removal instructions apply to the MSP?

Anybody?? im interested as well lol

Bala

01-01-2006, 09:04 AM

do the same bumper removal instructions apply to the MSP?

Yes. Use this for reference: http://protege5.ugly.net/ - Section: 09-10-04. It's not that hard, but you will need an extra set of hands to help you out.

samm5149

01-01-2006, 04:15 PM

As i was reading this i was thinking of doing my headlights to match the rest of my car. i have a red p5 and i was wondering if anybody has seen that done and if it looks any good?

WetsuitxNinja

01-02-2006, 02:09 PM

There are some pics on here of a yellow one with it matching, not really my cup of tea... Ill see if I can find pics

WetsuitxNinja

01-02-2006, 02:15 PM

as promised

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/368216

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55947

AzMz6

01-02-2006, 02:22 PM

As i was reading this i was thinking of doing my headlights to match the rest of my car. i have a red p5 and i was wondering if anybody has seen that done and if it looks any good?
body color normally looks good at first, but after awhile it loses its awe effect..;)

but it does look good on laser blue...;)

JDM-P5

01-02-2006, 05:47 PM

The black housings look better IMHO.

PlatinumMSP

01-07-2006, 02:42 AM

yeah i definatly utilized the service manuel for my bumper removal, i only broke one clip (on the grill). my car looks way good, i used HondaBond HT to help reseal my lights when I was all done, I also shaped, molded, and installed a tytanium clear corner kit. It took me over 18 hours to do but man is it worth it, check out the pics, tell me what u you think

JDM-P5

01-07-2006, 09:50 AM

Looks pretty good man!

DeadGeneration

01-07-2006, 04:12 PM

magnumP5

01-09-2006, 06:15 PM

JDM-P5

01-09-2006, 07:17 PM

Quick question. Has anyone had problems with dust, etc. in the lights after doing this? I tried really hard to keep the clear cover clean and away from anything that would get it dirty but at night it looks like there is a lot of dust inside. Will this eventually fall to the bottom and go away or am I going to have to pull the whole thing apart again?
That's probably dust, & it's not going to go anywhere unless you take em back apart again....i know it sounds like a chore, but if you notice it, other ppl will notice it & that's a no-no right?
Next time do it where its not too dusty (I know it's hard....).
You should also use some POWDER FREE latex gloves....that will prevent oil from your hands/fingers from getting on there...and def prevent fingerprints.
(thumb)

magnumP5

01-09-2006, 08:56 PM

Nevermind, it wasn't dust afterall. It was actually a bunch of small imperfections and dirt on the outide from general wear. Thanks for the help though.

magnumP5

01-18-2006, 05:53 PM

Well I did this a little over a week ago and no fogging yet and it's rained quite a bit since then. Just a warning to people who are going to do this in the future: make sure you keep the clear housing in a clean place with little dust. I got some in there and it isn't fun taking the whole thing apart again. Also, for some reason on one light the screw holding the lens on was stripped badly; I was only able to get it out and in again once so there is still dust in one light but it isn't too bad. The link in my sig has some simple pictures for comparison.

Boston5761

01-24-2006, 08:58 AM

Anyone have a set they would like to part ways with?

Boston5761

01-24-2006, 07:10 PM

bump-a-roni

magnumP5

01-24-2006, 10:49 PM

Anyone have a set they would like to part ways with?
Hate to say it, but why don't you just do it yourself? I mean i had never taken my car apart that much before I did it but it wasn't that bad - and so far I've never had any fogging problems.

Boston5761

01-24-2006, 10:55 PM

ive heard of ones messing up, melting and shit.... and i dont have $400 to replace them.

magnumP5

01-25-2006, 07:30 AM

ive heard of ones messing up, melting and shit.... and i dont have $400 to replace them.
Well I had each of mine in the oven at 300 degrees for ten minutes twice (for some reason it didn't work with 200 degrees) and it did absolutely nothing; no warping, bending whatever. The only thing that happened to me was that when prying the cover off I ended up bending some of the plastic around the edges. I was worried at first but it turned out to be completely harmless; no leaks and certainly no fogging. I mean, I didn't even use primer on mine; I just went to Walmart and got some 200-something grit sandpaper and some medium-temp semi-gloss black paint and that was it. I believe that to be a lot cheaper than to try to buy a headlight from some one here.

Buck

01-26-2006, 12:53 AM

here are some pics of mine I did a few days ago.

solid_snake

01-31-2006, 04:08 PM

Great How To!

I painted my Headlights even though my car is not a P5, it still looks good and the procedure is pretty much the same

http://www.msprotege.com/members/solid_snake/Black%20Headlights/PICT0411.JPG
http://www.msprotege.com/members/solid_snake/Black%20Headlights/PICT0412.JPG
http://www.msprotege.com/members/solid_snake/Black%20Headlights/PICT0416.JPGhttp://www.msprotege.com/members/solid_snake/Black%20Headlights/PICT0419.JPG

PlatinumMSP

01-31-2006, 08:39 PM

it looks a lot better than it used to but i think that it could have looked even better than that if you had cleared or smoked your reflectors, those amber reflectors really make any car look ugly

solid_snake

01-31-2006, 09:06 PM

it looks a lot better than it used to but i think that it could have looked even better than that if you had cleared or smoked your reflectors, those amber reflectors really make any car look ugly

thanks for the comment, now i'm looking for a replacement for the reflector, and the orange thing for the turn signal, as soon as i get them, i will pop the headlight open again and replace those reflectors

Beemer_Killer

03-10-2006, 05:58 AM

I want to do this mod very soon, but was wondering if Automotive exterior paint would work? I have some left over from the body shop, and was thinking about thinning it way out and using an airbrush to do the headlights, giving it more of that C6 Corvette headlight fixture look. Until then, I'll just black them out like this...

dharman

03-10-2006, 12:12 PM

I had painted my headlights at the ned of summer and have had no problems since. I didn't use high temp paint either. I have a blk protege so the headlights went blk to look like th 03 style. This would be a great mod if you have a white, blue,yellow etc.. to match the bezel to the color of your car instead of just painting it blk.

Bala

03-10-2006, 01:27 PM

I'm painting a set of P5 lights blue when I have a couple of other items sprayed to mount on my MSP (thumb)

Onatrum

03-13-2006, 10:30 AM

For anybody that HAS broken the bumper clip under the headlight, was it relatively cheap or easy to fix? By the way my bumper is drooping on the driver side, I can tell that the clip is either damaged or broken (from hitting a raccoon). It doesn't look so bad that I felt I had to fix it right away, but if I attempt this mod, nows the perfect time! Thanks!

MP5cd

03-13-2006, 10:56 AM

thank you

WetsuitxNinja

03-14-2006, 12:46 AM

I broke those clips, they didnt really do much I dont think. Check the 2 screws that screw into your fender and make sure those little tabs arent broken. My friend hit a dog and his bumper sat funny, I got some of that 2 part metal compound and built him new tabs since his were broken. Then i just filed them down so it would sit flush. Its been a few months and that stuff I used is holding up...

For anybody that HAS broken the bumper clip under the headlight, was it relatively cheap or easy to fix? By the way my bumper is drooping on the driver side, I can tell that the clip is either damaged or broken (from hitting a raccoon). It doesn't look so bad that I felt I had to fix it right away, but if I attempt this mod, nows the perfect time! Thanks!

Jubomime

03-14-2006, 02:32 AM

I know it would be expensive, but what if someone came up with gts-style blackout covers that were like transition lenses? I have NO IDEA how complicated or expensive it would be to develop, but even if they were several hundred apiece, I would pay it. Like, now.....

Jubomime

03-14-2006, 02:35 AM

kinda lika deesa...but not as crappy.

Kansei

03-25-2006, 07:54 PM

w00t following this how-to right now. lights are in the oven. I blacked out my headlights two years ago using a different how-to on here but one of my Luminics bulbs exploded and shot glass all inside a headlight so I gotta fix it.

2003newlyack

06-09-2006, 04:14 PM

buying the stuff and hopefully doing it tonight/tomorrow!

ProtoType5

06-09-2006, 05:01 PM

DO IT!!!!! Just take your time...You really can't rush painting...

2003newlyack

06-09-2006, 05:35 PM

haha allright allright.. im just doing the calipers first then if i have time the headlights

Kansei

06-09-2006, 08:08 PM

If you haven't had the bumper off before be very careful. There are clips on the sides of the headlights that hold the side part of the bumper up nice and tight to the fender and headlight, and they break very easily. The guide mentions that part if I recall correctly. I know it has been said but just take your time and be really careful not to strip the plastic screws that hold the splash guards and stuff in place.

khaosman

06-10-2006, 12:37 AM

Crazy D

06-13-2006, 06:30 AM

Question ?.....Flat black or Semi - Gloss ? ?

Kansei

06-13-2006, 06:40 AM

If you want to match the OEM black headlights I think you'd want to use a satin finish? not a really high lustre gloss but not flat. semi-gloss might work, but I can't picture exactly what semi-gloss looks like.

khaosman

06-13-2006, 02:18 PM

Question ?.....Flat black or Semi - Gloss ? ?

The stuff I used was low-gloss black engine paint. It looks awesome!
http://www.khaosman.com/albums/wash/DSC08486.sized.jpg
http://www.khaosman.com/albums/wash/DSC08487.sized.jpg
I'm going to try to get better pictures today.

2003newlyack

06-13-2006, 02:21 PM

haha well since im a procrastinator I now have to wait till next week to do mine, but I already bought the paint im going to use.. its the same as the guy who first did it, I'll make sure to take pictures when I do it.

Crazy D

06-15-2006, 06:35 AM

The stuff I used was low-gloss black engine paint. It looks awesome!
http://www.khaosman.com/albums/wash/DSC08486.sized.jpg
http://www.khaosman.com/albums/wash/DSC08487.sized.jpg
I'm going to try to get better pictures today.

That looks sweet man...txs, I'll pick up the paint this weekend and give it a shot... I'll post Pics once completed.

Also painting the upper Grill lip and my calipers and anything else that gets in my way...lol

I'm gonna C if I take a full day and do it all...

Bala

06-15-2006, 12:08 PM

Ripper323

06-17-2006, 07:58 AM

Has anyone used different colours apart from black? i.e. to match the colour of the car?

Kansei

06-17-2006, 08:29 AM

Has anyone used different colours apart from black? i.e. to match the colour of the car?

I've seen it done with yellow and it looked.. weird. It looks OK with silver though :)

khaosman

06-17-2006, 04:33 PM

Got the Part #'s :): http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2524803#post2524803

Awesome, I broke those as well. Thanks!

WinnipegPro5

06-23-2006, 07:30 PM

does the oven step make the lense black or is it just to heat the seal so you can get it off

i can't tell from the picture

InFlames

06-23-2006, 07:53 PM

Its to heat up the seal so you can pull the lens from the housing.

WinnipegPro5

06-23-2006, 08:16 PM

if they are blacked out does the light still project as well?
to me it seems like the chrome finish helps make the light work
I'm talking a safety issue here

Is it legal in canada?

Sorry for the silly questions, but I really want to do this and am unsure

Bala

06-23-2006, 08:30 PM

You won't be painting the reflector, so no worries there. I'll post a shot of the real deal a little later for ref. ...

Kansei

06-23-2006, 09:07 PM

Bala

06-23-2006, 09:53 PM

Hell yeah it's legal in Canada.. the later Protege5s in Canada were sold with the black headlight housing.
Yes they were. Behold - Genuine Canadian P5 lights (a special shout out to my "Canadian Hookup" :))
(canada)
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Bala%20de%20Plata/canblk1.jpg
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Bala%20de%20Plata/canblk2.jpg

MyZmZm

06-23-2006, 10:16 PM

Yes they were. Behold - Genuine Canadian P5 lights (a special shout out to my "Canadian Hookup" :))
(canada)
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Bala%20de%20Plata/canblk1.jpg
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Bala%20de%20Plata/canblk2.jpg
you traitor!!!! (peep) j/k

ahhhh, so clean and shiny and free of rock chips and pits....

i should have kept them and sent you mine!! :D

MyZmZm

06-23-2006, 10:18 PM

to my knowledge, all 2003 proteges - regular, p5 and msp - in canada had the black housing. so yes, it is perfectly safe and legal... as long as you don't go paint crazy and paint everything under the lense, lol

Kansei

06-23-2006, 10:27 PM

omg the lens is so clear.. WOW. When I have extra cash I may just buy those.. I'm sure it's nearly as cheap as the stock silver USDM lights anyway. Then I'll get rockblocker on it pronto! :D

Bala

06-23-2006, 10:33 PM

omg the lens is so clear.. WOW. When I have extra cash I may just buy those.. I'm sure it's nearly as cheap as the stock silver USDM lights anyway. Then I'll get rockblocker on it pronto! :D

Rockblocker ... hmmmm - this is a good idea. I'll be EZ-bakin' my USDM P5 lights for the MSP (they may or may not be black however(shady)) btw Chris - I havn't formally thanked you for the daily seizures caused by your new sig (flash)

MyZmZm

06-23-2006, 10:42 PM

Rockblocker ... hmmmm - this is a good idea. I'll be EZ-bakin' my USDM P5 lights for the MSP (they may or may not be black however(shady)) btw Chris - I havn't formally thanked you for the daily seizures caused by your new sig (flash) (rlaugh)

Kansei

06-23-2006, 10:57 PM

I've been waiting for someone to comment on that.

2003newlyack

06-23-2006, 11:24 PM

haha yeah it's instant strain on the eyes but hey you'll get some wanted/unwanted attention for that!

CTt3P5

06-24-2006, 02:19 PM

Those Canadians lights are awesome....how much do those retail for?

Kansei

06-24-2006, 02:46 PM

over 800 canadian. They look great though.

InFlames

06-24-2006, 02:54 PM

goddamn 800?!

Kansei

06-24-2006, 02:55 PM

That's getting a deal on them too haha.

I wish you could just buy a new lens. I think you might be able to but it still won't be at all cheap.

InFlames

06-24-2006, 02:56 PM

hmm I never thought about just purchasing the lens. Do you know if that's actually possible?

CTt3P5

06-24-2006, 02:57 PM

Ah damn $800....scratch those. Thanks for the quick response though. And yes they look sweet as hell.

Kansei

06-24-2006, 02:59 PM

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=214264&chapter=ARH5416&appSectionid=2295&groupid=2296&subgroupid=2297&componentid=19052&make=22&model=Protege&year=2003&graphicID=5416672&callout=1&catalogid=2

204 each.. I'm not sure if that is just the lens or if it is the whole headlight though.

InFlames

06-24-2006, 03:01 PM

400 or soo for new ones isn't too bad, I'd rather do that and paint them again.

Kansei

06-24-2006, 03:02 PM

400 or soo for new ones isn't too bad, I'd rather do that and paint them again.

You'd rather do 400 each than pay them again? the 205, even if it is for the whole headlight, is gonna be the USDM silver headlight.

InFlames

06-24-2006, 03:14 PM

Yea but I did my own headlights, I wouldnt mind doing them again. I can't justify paying 800 for two headlights.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/viscous/100-0036_IMG.jpg

Kansei

06-24-2006, 03:28 PM

Oh I misread your other post, I thought you were saying you would rather buy the new headlights than (you said "then", I saw "than") paint them again. I'm thinking the same myself. Get the new headlights, and probably transfer the chrome piece from the new ones into my old housing, or just put the new lens on my old headlight, and then like sell the chrome ones on eBay or something.

2003newlyack

06-27-2006, 03:54 PM

aghh bumper was a pain to take off, mainly the two screws inside holding the bumper to the fender but hey I now can do it no problem! I used the paint that the original poster used and turned out good for me, had some condensation in the first night but has now since disappeared.. for good I'm hoping

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/mattiesmallz003/100_0519.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/mattiesmallz003/100_0532.jpg

Brad

07-16-2006, 11:57 PM

Will this work for a '00 lx?

Kansei

07-17-2006, 05:40 AM

^^^ It should work fine on your LX. try to post pics of it when you're done (if you do it). I don't think I've seen it done on a sedan before.

Brad

07-17-2006, 10:41 AM

even on removing the bumper, or will the directions be slightly different?

Brad

07-17-2006, 12:56 PM

anyone?

Brad

07-17-2006, 03:57 PM

so I tried to do my clear corners, but it looks like the it is all one piece, not 2 pieces being held together by glue...does anyone knwo where to get black corners for a 00?

Kansei

07-18-2006, 09:51 AM

oh you have an 00 so it's the two piece with the headlight and the separate corner light. Yeah the corner light is probably plastic welded. There are clear and/or black corners sold for the early 3rd gens, I know I've seen them. Check www.corksport.com.

Sorry I didn't respond faster, I'm usually on here like 24/7 but I'm in new hampshire and the only internet access I have at our summer condo is by using my cell phone as a modem.. so it's painfully slow.

Brad

07-18-2006, 01:06 PM

oh it's cool. I was going to try and have this done by the time that I went out of town, but it doesnt look like that i will be able to. I looked on corksport, but they don't have a listing for them. I might give them a call and see what the deal is.

thanks.

Brad

07-18-2006, 01:07 PM

richs970

07-18-2006, 03:42 PM

Brad

07-18-2006, 07:41 PM

Kansei

07-18-2006, 09:23 PM

I contacted CorkSport and they said that they no longer sell them, referred me to their seller (alfaotto.com). Contact at AlfaOtto said that they are only a supplier and do not sell to the general public, and if they do, there is a $800 minimum.

Any AVs interested in taking this up?

Have you tried eBay yet? look around in the for sale forum and maybe ask in the 3rd gen forum. I know a lot of people have them, and there's people around who are probably trading their cars in and would sell them to you.

Crazy D

08-24-2006, 08:38 PM

Finally got around to doing this How-To this weekend simultaneously with my roomate and his G35. I don't post much but i figured I'd share with anyone interested in blackin out their lights. It went smoothly. Our cars are 10x easier to work on then a G35 though. Take a look. The car is in bad shape since i live and park in the streets in NYC (with is frustrating as all hell by the way) but I'm keepin it as pretty as possible.

BTW, great mod to do-- the look is awesome (although i might remove my yellow fog rockblockers now, feedback on that would be much appreciated) and it even makes my headlights perform a little bit better at night.

Looks sweet.... before you remove the rockblockers do the Fog light "How to" and the JDM upper Gril lip mod... then change your front signal bulbs to the same color as your fogs... light'm up once your all done and you might like the end product....regardless nice Job (first)

1 Sick 5 door

09-24-2006, 10:11 AM

has anyone used fusion paint? I had a buddy use it on his rsx, just i was just wondoring if it holds up to the temp of the lights

Demoniam

11-05-2006, 09:59 PM

I'm halfway finished with this project...got a question though. Do i need to get 100% of the chrome off before painting? It is so hard to get the recessed areas sanded down.

Also, one of my headlamp bolts snapped in half while removing it. I may be able to remove the broken half of the bolt , but wher can i find a matching bolt to secure the lamp?

2003newlyack

11-05-2006, 10:04 PM

not sure about the bolt but i know the better you want the paint to stick and look the more sanding you should do.. mine turned a sort of grayish green color when i sanded them.

Demoniam

11-11-2006, 09:14 AM

BTW All done with this mod

I had to drill out the busted headlight mounting bolt, and ordered a replacement from OnlineMazdaParts.com, as well as the Headlamp sockets that the PO threw away!

Here's what I ended up with!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b372/DEMONiAM/Mazda%20P5/tony002.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b372/DEMONiAM/Mazda%20P5/tony004.jpg

Kansei

11-11-2006, 09:57 AM

looks great! I love the way it looks on black.

Demoniam

11-11-2006, 10:53 AM

I did a turn signal/bumper light tinting How-to, if anyone needs it:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2799383#post2799383

CTt3P5

11-11-2006, 07:14 PM

Black on black is very nice!!! (deadhorse) Now get the smoked rockblocker fog overlays and paint your calipers black....gonna paint mine black next spring.

671_p5

01-07-2007, 07:23 AM

Just did mine today and it looks awesome... but I melted the bottom of the housing and it made a hole. I just hope it doesnt condensate. Oh yea has anyone tried leaving the rings chrome?

Kansei

01-07-2007, 09:50 AM

^^ I considered leaving chrome rings but then got lazy and just painted the whole thing black :) I bet it would look cool, it's something I haven't seen anyone do yet.

DE31

01-07-2007, 04:24 PM

my left one just got some condensation... it was so random, i was just washing my car, i expected to get condensation through the months of driving, through rain too, it decides to condensate when i wash my car.... going to crack it open again and clean it up

2003newlyack

01-07-2007, 11:33 PM

My left headlight forms condensation after I wash my car too, no condensation with any other reason just that one. I blacked out my headlights in late june, and I'm probably going to be taking mine apart again as well..

TreFlip999

01-09-2007, 04:23 PM

has anyone done this since this has been posted?

Kansei

01-09-2007, 07:25 PM

has anyone done this since this has been posted?

Done what since what has been posted?

DE31

01-09-2007, 08:50 PM

well it cleared up without leaving much of a mark so i think i'll just let it be for a while.

Demoniam

01-09-2007, 10:13 PM

I siliconed around the mated sides before reassembling...no condensation and plenty of pressure washes!

DE31

01-09-2007, 10:18 PM

whats odd is i've washed my car many many times before and no problems. i'll see what happens.

2003newlyack

01-10-2007, 09:32 AM

Silicone around the seam sounds like a good idea
I think I might do that if it fogs up again inside

mesoup

01-19-2007, 12:03 AM

Does blackened headlight take away light output?

rjs_protege5

01-19-2007, 12:20 AM

Nope, didn't do anything to my visibility.. My headlights just look nicer... :D

mesoup

01-19-2007, 01:29 AM

can someone else confirm this??? I thought the chrome is used to deflect light?

Kansei

01-19-2007, 11:21 AM

can someone else confirm this??? I thought the chrome is used to deflect light?

not so much.. as you can see from my sig pic, we are blacking out the decorative chrome piece in the headlights, which is totally separate from the reflectors that actually do stuff with the light.

If anyone has noticed any decrease in light output it is because you have reduced the light scatter caused by the chrome housings, but I'm willing to bet light on the road is still the same.

mesoup

01-19-2007, 02:53 PM

not so much.. as you can see from my sig pic, we are blacking out the decorative chrome piece in the headlights, which is totally separate from the reflectors that actually do stuff with the light.

If anyone has noticed any decrease in light output it is because you have reduced the light scatter caused by the chrome housings, but I'm willing to bet light on the road is still the same.

you must be right since so many people that have blacked out headlights never mentioned about this issue... by the way, how did you get that blue tint? you have a diy write up for it???

Kansei

01-19-2007, 03:32 PM

Actually you don't have to do anything for that except buy new bulbs. They don't light up blue, they still light up a nice legal orange color. They only look that way when off (and when a camera flash is on them.. normally they just look clear-ish).

Sylvania Silverstar turn signal bulbs... a big ripoff at 20 dollars (they just paint the normal orange bulbs (a couple dollars) with a shiny silvery-blue coating) but they do the trick :)

MyZmZm

01-19-2007, 06:49 PM

chris (kansei) is right in that there is no diminished light output if you black out the housing - as long as you don't touch the inner reflective portions. all 03 Proteges - MSP, P5 and regular Pros - had black housing headlights; if there was ANY issue with light output, Transport Canada would have deemed it illegal. i switched from the chrome housing (mine's an 02) to the black housing headlights - yay for free trades!! :D - with another local P5 owner (he had an 03) and i noticed no difference.

adr2277

02-09-2007, 03:22 PM

hey guys you all inspired me to do mine so i did it yesterday 01 lx
was pretty easy although i did end up breaking the little clip on the headlight all in all i found it came out great and i also left the rings of the light chrome and did the rest in black
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4462/dsc02140ml1.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1480/dsc02135rg3.jpg

Demoniam

02-09-2007, 04:04 PM

perty!!! very nice!

Kansei

02-09-2007, 05:56 PM

I wish I had left those rings chrome.. I always suspected it would look awesome, and you just confirmed it.

adr2277

02-09-2007, 09:50 PM

just wanted to try something different everyone else does the whole thing black

2003newlyack

02-11-2007, 12:21 PM

chrome rings look good!

D-rock240

03-18-2007, 10:42 AM

Yeah I like those painted sedan lights. The chrome ring accent looks good.

whitemp5seattle

03-29-2007, 11:32 PM

I'm selling my painted headlights...so if there's anybody who subscribed to this thread but hasn't gotten around to baking their lights yet, check out the FS threads (or click on the link in my sig) to get to the FS thread! :p

patsissons

04-09-2007, 02:02 PM

I posted this tutorial on the Mazda Guide Wikibook

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Mazda_Guide/Protege_5/Headlight_Blackout

amsgator

04-09-2007, 08:51 PM

the glass stays clear correct? it doesnt affect the light output at all?

whitemp5seattle

04-09-2007, 08:52 PM

the plastic lens does, yes. the only thing you paint is the plastic chrome insert inside your headlight assembly

amsgator

04-09-2007, 08:55 PM

the plastic lens does, yes. the only thing you paint is the plastic chrome insert inside your headlight assembly

ok, thats what i gathered from the how to but i could tell from the final picture. i may do this...you dont do anything to the reflectors though right?

whitemp5seattle

04-09-2007, 09:01 PM

if you're talking about the chrome parts behind the lightbulbs, the answer is no

amsgator

04-10-2007, 09:02 AM

CTt3P5

04-10-2007, 11:58 AM

ok, thats what i gathered from the how to but i could tell from the final picture. i may do this...you dont do anything to the reflectors though right?

No worries about the reflectors. After you bake the light and remove the lens you then remove the reflectors from the housing prior to sanding and painting.

CTt3P5

04-10-2007, 12:00 PM

ok didnt think so. also, my friend said it pretty easy to get water built up inside them once you take them apart making the lenses fog up and sometimes the lenses even get burnt. know anything about that?

Just make sure you press them back together real good when you are done. I painted mine in November and have had no condensation with the Northeast winter or carwashes (by hand and automated).

whitemp5seattle

04-10-2007, 12:22 PM

I painted mine way back in 2003 or 2004. No condensation yet.

murda79

04-10-2007, 07:35 PM

If you're that worried about condensation, just squeeze some clear silicone sealant in with the glue like I did and you'll have nothing to worry about. Its been 1 year since I did mine.

sp33d03

05-21-2007, 12:52 PM

i have a question, i have a mazdaspeed protege and i have the oranage reflectors, so in order for me to black out my headlight i would have to paint that reflector black correct?

Rome04

06-14-2007, 05:34 PM

Do you bake the lights at 200 degrees C or F? its a big difference!

whitemp5seattle

06-14-2007, 05:59 PM

200 fahrenheit

amsgator

08-01-2007, 11:14 PM

how hard is it to install a headlight housing w/ a broken mounting tab?

amsgator

08-08-2007, 03:03 PM

anyone have a diagram for where all the screws are on the bumper? I checked the ugly.net and didnt see anything, maybe i was looking in the wrong place :(

njaremka

08-08-2007, 03:16 PM

anyone have a diagram for where all the screws are on the bumper? I checked the ugly.net and didnt see anything, maybe i was looking in the wrong place :(

section 09-10 outlines front bumper removal -
http://protege5.ugly.net/09-10.PDF

amsgator

08-08-2007, 03:43 PM

section 09-10 outlines front bumper removal -
http://protege5.ugly.net/09-10.PDF

muchas gracias. diagram seems confusing though

amsgator

08-09-2007, 09:46 AM

can someone take pictures of the bolts/screws that have to come out? i know of the ones in the wheel well but what else underneath and on top? i found like 8 bolts underneath that are 10mm and i dont wanna take out the wrong ones... thx :(

CTt3P5

08-09-2007, 10:05 AM

Can't take pics 'cause I am at work and I also can't see the pics on the first page but I can try and explain.

3 bolts on fender well

3 or 4 screws on underside of each fender (start at the wheel and work your way to the foglight)

2 bolts on the underside of the middle of the bumper

Now for the tricky ones

2 screws on each side of the fender inside the well area. The first one is just inside the fender well and the second is in the area where the fender meets the headlight housing.

Just be careful with those clips on the headlight, they are easy to break. Take a small screwdriver and depress them while pulling the bumper down.

I know pics are more helpful but hope this helps you out somehow.

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:19 AM

so i dont have to take the grill off separate? it will just come off w/ the bumper?

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:21 AM

all i got off now is:

2 screws inside driver wheel well, 3 inside passenger wheel well, and the 6 holding the splash guards : 3 each side.

:(

CTt3P5

08-09-2007, 10:25 AM

so i dont have to take the grill off separate? it will just come off w/ the bumper?

No, you will have to remove the grill first. Sorry, thought you had done this already. Grill is simple - two bolts, then pull out the plastic screws (using a flathead) then pull up at an angle.

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:27 AM

okie. then are there screws under the grill? i got the two connecting the bumper to the undercarraige as well

shane02pro5

08-09-2007, 10:30 AM

Remove all the fender lining 2 screws behind the headlights and 2 underneath that I remember. Be careful you don't break the little taps off the bumper under the headlights. Putting it back on is much easier with an extra set of hands!!

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:31 AM

i got the 2 screw off the grill and the two plastic plugs, but there are still 2 lil arrow looking things holding it on....how do i remove those? it doesnt look like they wil make it through the holes, they are flared on the end

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:31 AM

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:32 AM

http://img205.echo.cx/img205/9858/july4th0779vg.jpg

grill came off as one w/ the bumper...

CTt3P5

08-09-2007, 10:34 AM

No screws under the grill. Just remove the others I mentioned and set the bumper to the side....don't forget the wiring for the fogs unless you disconnected them.

Once the bumper is off you will see the three bolts holding the lights on. But before removing the lights, remove the black plastics pieces (two bolts) at the bottom of the light. It is much easier to remove the lights with these out of your way.

CTt3P5

08-09-2007, 10:35 AM

http://img205.echo.cx/img205/9858/july4th0779vg.jpg

grill came off as one w/ the bumper...

Cool!

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:43 AM

alright i found them and got the bumper off....now what clips do i need to be careful w/

CTt3P5

08-09-2007, 10:46 AM

If the bumper is off and you didn't hear any 'breaking sounds' then no need to worry about the clips. They were either broken (as one of mine was) or popped out when you loosened the screws.

amsgator

08-09-2007, 10:58 AM

do the bulbs need to come out b4 baking them?

amsgator

08-09-2007, 12:51 PM

Good News: Everything is back on my car that I took off

Bad News: Lights aren't painted b/c i couldnt get the plastic off even after heating 3 times in oven. i got it pryed a lil but wouldnt come off and i have somewhere to be at 630 so i had to put everything back on. hopefully i can try again next week :(

Other good news: so i didnt completely waste my day, i moved my ballasts so they arent in the engine bay anymore. also all the nuts and screws are gone, so everything i took off found it's way back on.

shane02pro5

08-09-2007, 03:02 PM

Man that sucks! I need to do this one day, only all the way thru!

L8R

08-09-2007, 03:05 PM

Nice, that is where I have my ballasts. Headlights look great also.

amsgator

08-09-2007, 03:10 PM

yeap it does :( i'll try again next week. i just got some catz in too i just need to find out which wire is the postive driving light wire...so i am tryin to figure that out.

amsgator

08-09-2007, 04:03 PM

anyone have a wiring diagram of the lighting system. need to know which is positive parking light wire

spudgun07

08-12-2007, 11:48 AM

Did this Mod yesterday.

Changed a few things here and there, improvised a bit, but it all went quite smoothly.

We didn't sand at all. Also didn't use Hi-Temp paint. Might seem like a bad idea, but my friend that helped me did this to his Volkswagen VR6 over a year, and hasn't has any issues. But yeah.... it looks great.

amsgator

08-12-2007, 01:37 PM

i couldnt get my housings apart... did you use 200 for temp or higher?

amsgator

08-14-2007, 09:38 AM

i kinda lost one of the screws holding the lens on....i'm guessing thats bad? :(

http://img205.echo.cx/img205/7973/july4th0696tz.jpg

amsgator

08-14-2007, 11:48 AM

i looked everywhere for it and cant find it..... if really HAVE to have it i'll try ace and see if they have one that will fit

amsgator

08-14-2007, 12:54 PM

done painting! gonna let it dry for 45 more minutes then stick it all back together...minus that screw i lost :(

amsgator

08-14-2007, 02:15 PM

well i'm done, waiting a few more minutes for the silicone sealant i added to dry a little more then I'll put them back on the car

spudgun07

08-14-2007, 06:33 PM

i couldnt get my housings apart... did you use 200 for temp or higher?

We did 200, but definitely not for very long... We had it in there for 1-3 minutes, tops.

When you're prying it apart, it helps to have a utility knife handy to cut away at the silicon.

asmo 03 mp5

09-08-2007, 10:19 AM

I use 200 degrees for 6-8 min, I also baked the painted piece seperate to make sure paint was dry. The silcone is way overkill and not needed, unless you pulled all the glue of yours they'll seal perfect, I dont think anyones ever had leaks that stuck them back together tight.

citruss

11-07-2007, 07:58 PM

maybe this has already been posted but the pics don't seem to be loading anymore

mx-p5

11-27-2007, 11:52 AM

First off, I want to thank you for a glorious write-up! Made life so easy this past weekend. I did wind up breaking the bumper tabs at the headlights though. And, somehow wound up with 2 extra 10mm bolts. Eitherway, Here's the results
http://photo.ringo.com/243/243579959O663672854.jpg

http://photo.ringo.com/243/243579970O752336711.jpg

And, went a step further and did the rear bumper as well

http://photo.ringo.com/243/243579976O749279530.jpg

Thanks again!!

Tylor

dxaveP5

01-03-2008, 06:57 PM

TreFlip999

01-04-2008, 10:03 AM

Dang, I like the DIY B/O better...anyone wanna trade for sedan headlights?

Crazy D

01-04-2008, 05:56 PM

I'm looking to Trade my B/O for stock chrome ones...

digital jedi

01-04-2008, 09:59 PM

hey whats up crazy d iam interested in the trade by any chance do you have any pics of the lights .. get back to me a.s.a.p

808MP5

01-04-2008, 10:20 PM

Trade um!!!!! If not fade um. Its really not that hard to do.

Crazy D

01-05-2008, 11:33 AM

hey whats up crazy d iam interested in the trade by any chance do you have any pics of the lights .. get back to me a.s.a.p

Here's what I got:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k314/mdvr613/IMG_1045.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k314/mdvr613/IMG_1224.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k314/mdvr613/IMG_1151-1.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k314/mdvr613/Protege5-1.jpg

justanothermp5

01-05-2008, 11:44 AM

wow not to be mean but ur car looks weird, i think its cuz u have roof racks and no sunroof, i thought all p5's came with a sunroof

Crazy D

01-05-2008, 11:52 AM

Mine is a very , very, very early 02

I actually went to pickup a Black Mica 03 with all the little things mine doesn't have... tweeter pods, side markers, moon roof etc. But it was gone by the time I went to take a look at it.... so I gave that all up and got this one. It seems I've had her forever.... don't regret it.... yet.

I've been wanting to get rid of the rack for some time now.... but I havn't seen anyone intrested in it.

TreFlip999

01-05-2008, 12:41 PM

Crazy D

01-05-2008, 12:53 PM

txs Man...are you home yet ?

TreFlip999

01-05-2008, 01:13 PM

txs Man...are you home yet ?

Not yet bro, Either may or august, dunno yet..Im ready to get back to my car which is being raped right now by my friend...I had to leave it up at my moms in washington and my friend drives it...im scared to see how many miles it has on it but one of my friends, who is a fellow member here (blynd_spy) is keeping up on all the maintenance for me so he is a godsend, hes about to do my 60k tune-up for me

Crazy D

01-05-2008, 01:41 PM

Not yet bro, Either may or august, dunno yet..Im ready to get back to my car which is being raped right now by my friend...I had to leave it up at my moms in washington and my friend drives it...im scared to see how many miles it has on it but one of my friends, who is a fellow member here (blynd_spy) is keeping up on all the maintenance for me so he is a godsend, hes about to do my 60k tune-up for me

Damn man that sux's... hope she's ok by the time u get back and hope u get back to the home land soon.

TreFlip999

01-05-2008, 02:36 PM

Damn man that sux's... hope she's ok by the time u get back and hope u get back to the home land soon.

Yah thanks man, Im sick of this place, i need a beer lol

digital jedi

01-05-2008, 03:30 PM

crazy d just sent u p/m . ooo and y is it that you want to trade for stock headlights

Crazy D

01-05-2008, 04:09 PM

crazy d just sent u p/m . ooo and y is it that you want to trade for stock headlights

Cuz I'm painting them again... lol

Just want to try something different this time, thats all.

D-rock240

01-05-2008, 05:12 PM

Painting the new ones silver?

Crazy D

01-05-2008, 08:34 PM

Painting the new ones silver?

TOP SECRET (In case it doesn't work out or I f/them up)...

But I do need them in chrome cuz I want to leave some areas chrome that I didn't on mine.

speed5hornet

01-05-2008, 10:41 PM

G-OLD! right, ur gonna paint em' gold and have two tone headlight assemblies, chrome and gold hahah

Crazy D

01-14-2008, 04:38 AM

G-OLD! right, ur gonna paint em' gold and have two tone headlight assemblies, chrome and gold hahah

I'm going "platinum"....lol

Naa, just black...just gonna try something else, plus I won't have my front bumper side markers by this summer so I need to work something out like the sedan's lights.

When I went to insepct my car this year they gave me a hard time about it, since I painted them. But if the Headlight corner has some type of reflector I should be o.k.

Don't know if this is a NY State thing...but it actually made sence to me..."safety"

njaremka

01-14-2008, 07:39 AM

I'm going "platinum"....lol

Naa, just black...just gonna try something else, plus I won't have my front bumper side markers by this summer so I need to work something out like the sedan's lights.

When I went to insepct my car this year they gave me a hard time about it, since I painted them. But if the Headlight corner has some type of reflector I should be o.k.

Don't know if this is a NY State thing...but it actually made sence to me..."safety"

maybe you need to find a new inspection station - i have a sedan with p5 headlights, no corner marker, and passed state inspection - they didn't even mention anything about the lights, let alone the header i also have.

mx-p5

01-14-2008, 07:53 AM

Anybody seen a white pro5 with whited out headlights? I'm contemplating doing my wife's white.

Tylor

808MP5

01-14-2008, 12:36 PM

never seen it yet but I'm sure color matching would look cool. Do it, go for it, post pics. I'm also debating on color matching but I'm lazy to take my headlights apart "again" LOL

njaremka

01-14-2008, 12:37 PM

i think on a white it would be as nice as say on a red or blue, but why not, go for it

mx-p5

01-14-2008, 12:38 PM

I havn't taken her headlights apart yet. I just gotta find time to do it. She wants to help on it, so, I'll get her in there pulling the bumper and working on her own car.

Just gotta find the right white now.

Tylor

speed5hornet

01-14-2008, 12:40 PM

are u guys painting the entire back of the light, or are you leaving the reflective "cone" ill call it right around the bulb stock?

njaremka

01-14-2008, 12:53 PM

do NOT paint the reflective part or you will lose output

speed5hornet

01-14-2008, 12:54 PM

then are ppl taping off/masking off that part? I dont remember reading anything about that?

njaremka

01-14-2008, 12:56 PM

when you take apart your headlight, you will see that it is completely separate from the other part

mx-p5

01-14-2008, 01:01 PM

2 screws and the part you paint comes off the chrome reflectors.

Yes, DO NOT PAINT THE REFLECTORS!!!

I'll try to get some pics cause the ones at the start of this thread are not worky

Tylor

speed5hornet

01-14-2008, 01:02 PM

haha, right, i noticed that as i was looking at pics, im getting a new bumper to replace my broken one, i rearended ppl twice hence broken clips everywhere and a crack right underneath the passenger headlight bottom right corner. So when i take the old one off i will eventually get around to doing this, heck why not right?

YES! OMG thanks, the pics havnt been working for a while, but im not doing this untill march! so hopefully pics are still there by then

808MP5

01-14-2008, 01:14 PM

you could also get the instructions from xenon.com under the DDE KIT. Actually easier if u search the forums for the xenon dde kit installation .PDF file. Thats the instructions i used. Its basically the same thing w/o the halo lights. Do the DDE kit its sick with a lifetime warrenty though practically impossible to contact them.

speed5hornet

01-14-2008, 01:19 PM

i saw that a while ago, i might get them, depending on how much i get for tax returns, mmm blacked out headlights with DDE kit on yellow turbo'd p5 mmmm

mx-p5

01-14-2008, 03:28 PM

I was going to do the DDE kit, but, I just can't bring myself to putting little rings in and on my headlights. I like the clean look. Oh well. As to the white headlights, I gotta photoshop it first. Get the wife's approval, then we'll see. It is her car afterall

Tylor

njaremka

01-14-2008, 03:30 PM

the dde reference was just for a "how-to" on taking the lights apart

R-X-R

01-31-2008, 02:30 PM

image has expired :(

tlonon

02-07-2008, 12:23 PM

You're Mom's expired...
sorry, I had to go there
anyways,
Black outs on a silver 6?
thoughts?

njaremka

02-07-2008, 12:34 PM

Black outs on a silver 6?

sure, why not

mx-p5

02-07-2008, 12:35 PM

I think blackouts look good on anything!! I say DO IT TO IT!!

Tylor

justanothermp5

02-15-2008, 06:04 PM

ok i just did this, and i found a helpful hint for everybody who hasnt done it yet,
when u take it out of the oven and ur trying to pry it apart; it cools down fast so use a hairdryer or a heatgun, because i used it and the silicon or w/e they used to seal it together just literally spread apart with out any effort at all, really easy with a hairdryer, REALLLLLY EASY

and my headlights looked a little sandblasted so i sanded them down with 1200 grit sand paper and cleared them, looks better then originally but not as good as it did the first day i bought it

dxaveP5

02-16-2008, 11:45 AM

ohh i dint sand mine at all and it came out real nice

http://photos-953.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v183/98/57/671581953/n671581953_634075_25.jpg

srry bout the pic being not so focusd into the lights but
i will try to get a better one when i have the time

justanothermp5

02-19-2008, 03:49 PM

oh i actually used some stuff from autozone that costs 20 bucks and it came in a kit
it actually worked really good and both of my headlights are actually crystal clear now

dxaveP5

02-21-2008, 08:32 PM

oh i actually used some stuff from autozone that costs 20 bucks and it came in a kit
it actually worked really good and both of my headlights are actually crystal clear now

i bought me some of the Meguiars Plast X cleaner
and it cleaned out my headlights really goood
i fergot to clean the inside when i did my blackouts but yea bottle was bout 4sumthin and then i bought foam pads for another 3bucks and my headlights were clean as new lights

havent seen the kits from autozone yet but ive seen em and i heard they work too