got beat by a rsx-s [Archive]

brennan

02-24-2003, 09:30 PM

Don't you have that injen intake that should add a few hp, didn't it give you like 12whp? That should give you about 185 hp at the crank, Just a thought, I know those type s can be a bitch. We'll get them soon enough;)

SpicyMSP

02-24-2003, 10:25 PM

yea the intake did add 10- 12 hp. But still no luck

brennan

02-24-2003, 11:01 PM

No worries you can still whip the ass's of those civic owners:)
And in no time we should be able to have enough aftermarket to beat a acura rsx - type s, what is funny is where I live I only see rsx premiums and they drive them like they have the type s I can't wait to beat there ass at a light:D

Daemos

02-24-2003, 11:27 PM

those RSX Type-S are fast. If they launch high (and they can launch high) they are in the mid 14s...

Driver skill is important though...if you can't drive, don't expect to win. Not saying you can't drive...but I'm not surprised.

you may have a little more low end than the RSX-S, but it's not enough to balance out with their top end, and the fact that they can probally launch at 6000 rpm or so. I've only taken an RSX-S lauch (this is me driving the RSX) at 5000 rpm, but it probally could be launched at 6000 rpm.

That's the wonder of honda engines. They don't produce enough torque to really have you worry about wheel spin or hop, or even torque steer, but the top end power is untouchable cept maybe from Toytoa's VVTL-i engines, which I believe are better in their own right.

Having low end torque is a double edged sword. It's good if you know how to use it...but it comes with costs, torque steer, wheel hop and spin.

It's the same with a turbo, double edged sword, you only make power if you stay in boost.

Everything has ups and downs to it. It's up to you to figure out the weaknesses, and overcome them.

tritonheat1

02-25-2003, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by SpicyMSP
:(
Sad day for me and my MSP.
What else to say?

Not saying you are a sucky driver or anything, but did you actually race from a stoplight to whatever you guys were doing cause the MSP's 0-60-and 1/4mile times are around the same time. Seeing how lawerence ran a 14.9 stock" i think it would have been an even to driver's race, unless he had his K20A motor really Souped up or something..:eek:

gyrospeed

02-25-2003, 01:34 AM

I'm just wondering if it was close and if so, how close. I have driven my friend's Rsx-S and I know it's fast! I can't see it completely kicking the Msp's butt but I could be wrong.

WaatDaHell

02-25-2003, 01:40 AM

2.0 Liter producing 200 horspower, naturally-aspirated? I'll take the RSX Type-S any day.

The only 4 naturally aspirated cars producing at least 100 HP per liter are the Acura RSX Type-S, BMW M3, Ferrari 575M (I think, but one of the Ferrari's), and the most with 120 HP per liter, the Honda S2000.

For now, I'll just cruise with my pretty slow Protege5. (so sad...)

SpicyMSP

02-25-2003, 11:29 AM

i wasnt dirving my MSP, just the passanger.
It was from a stop light aound a turn into a straight.
Turboge was driving

1sty

02-25-2003, 11:40 AM

Don't feel bad its a faster car, you'll run into a few of those.

turboge

02-25-2003, 11:55 AM

Heres the situation:

1. Stoplight, he's on the inside lane, I'm on outside
2. 15 yards over a bump into a left hand turn
3. I launched at 2500rpm to get a quick little lunge into the turn
4. LSD pulling me towards him I shift at 5000rpm to get into the torque band
5. He shifts at 8000 and pulls away in 2nd
6. SpicyMSP has jaw dropped
7. I tell her the car has mods and at least 30-40hp on the MSP.
8. She doesn't care, it shouldn't have won, I am a poor driver.

That's the story.

SpicyMSP

02-25-2003, 11:57 AM

thats not how I remember it
LOL!

White 6s

02-25-2003, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Daemos

That's the wonder of honda engines. They don't produce enough torque to really have you worry about wheel spin or hop, or even torque steer,

false. in my si..with a 1.8 gsr swap and a majority of bolt ons. made 166 whp and 116 wtq. i had wheel hop like no other. i broke 6 axles last summer...4 at the dragstrip..launching a low torque car that's front wheel drive is quite a task. when i mastered to launch my car...i did nothing but break axles...even a diffrential..but that was with a diffrent setup and when i was spraying nitrous

White 6s

02-25-2003, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by turboge
Heres the situation:

8. She doesn't care, it shouldn't have won, I am a poor driver.

That's the story.

she needs to have her head checked..hehe j/k...from the videos on your site...u seem a natural at the strip! wonder how modded that type s was.

Lawerence

02-25-2003, 12:17 PM

So how much did the RSX-S beat you?
IM really excited to run one.
The best time I've se for them stock is
14.8@94

my best time is 14.9@92.8.

Thats pretty damn close if you ask me. Definitely a drivers race.
But once in the triple digit speeds they will pull away VERY VERY Slowly.

turboge

02-25-2003, 12:25 PM

Hehe, it was a joke. I stopped accelerating at about 60mph as he was already far enough ahead to pull a stupid manuever like cutting in front of me.

Before we raced he was tailling this truck that was turning left and he almost smashed into him as he swerved wrecklessly out of the way.

I'm sure if the launch and run was in a straight line I would have had a decent chance at beating him. Videos of my protege(91 turbo) and Spec V at the drag strip are at http://info1credit.com/bb for your viewing pleasure. You will need Quicktime to watch them.

1sty

02-25-2003, 12:31 PM

I would have thought the MSP would be better at the higher sppeds. Hell I pulled away from a 2000 Maxima at tripple digit speeds.

rsxlerate

03-07-2003, 03:16 AM

man great board... i don't see people going "aww man the rsx sucks, you should have whooped it badly" yet i see great car enthusiasts! yeah i have a rsx, but i tell you i'd love me a MSP any day. they are beautiful to me and IMO look a lot better than a se-r. the thing is with stock vs stock, MSP vs RSX-S, i would say it's a driver's/conditions race. doesn't weather affect how a F/I car runs?

LinuxRacr

03-07-2003, 05:57 AM

I lost to one with Hondata before I got my Exhaust and Downpipe..

Daemos

03-07-2003, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by rsxlerate
man great board... i don't see people going "aww man the rsx sucks, you should have whooped it badly" yet i see great car enthusiasts! yeah i have a rsx, but i tell you i'd love me a MSP any day. they are beautiful to me and IMO look a lot better than a se-r. the thing is with stock vs stock, MSP vs RSX-S, i would say it's a driver's/conditions race. doesn't weather affect how a F/I car runs?

Weather conditions affect how all cars run. I'm guessing it would affect how a turbo car runs, just a little more, but no more to be any noticable.

Turboluver

03-07-2003, 09:57 AM

As a former driver of an rsx type s, i have to say personally that the two cars run very close 1/4 mile times. I managed a 15 flat on my first try with the type s, and ive seen a 15.3 on paper for the msp. Now I know those paper times are usually off a bit, so I would imagine that it is still possible to take a type s. I wont know personally until I pick up my msp in a little while, but from the test drive, and what ive seen on paper, i have a pretty good feeling its possible. You'll get him next time bro. No doubt.

o.g.sk8er

03-07-2003, 09:57 AM

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I hope this is a joke, because I've seen Turboge drive, and let me tell you, he can drive like a mutha-fukka!!:D He has more talent than most people behind the wheel.

Patrick

MadBiker

03-07-2003, 09:58 AM

Well at least the RSX picked on someone his size. Good for him. But with some more mods RSX's can be taken. I read somewhere here that somebody with a seriously modded P5 (yes, the sport wagon) beat an RSX.

I hate it when Mustangs or a V-6 Toyota lines up at a light with me and try to make me race. It's probably because they're getting their butts kicked when they pick on someone their own size. I don't bother with them and I don't race because I'm still mostly stock...

mypfizzle

03-07-2003, 11:26 AM

i get that all the time.. mustangs trying to race.. civic hatchbacks (mystery machines) i had a guy in a turbo supra try to race my wagon.. uMm.. hello.. its automatic.. and a wagon.. and it doesnt say subaru on it. -=)

rsxlerate

03-07-2003, 02:38 PM

yeah i don't like mustangs at all... especially those ugly new ones that are coming out :'(

in the world of racing, the car can be fast, but needs a fast driver. like my friend eric with a rx-7 TT that is capable of at least high 13, he only managed to run a 14.5 his best. i KNOW he cant drive for shiz. or some guy i saw with a se-r spec v who ran 15.6, when i know those things is capable of at LEAST 15.2 stock. i don't know what my point is :)

1sty

03-07-2003, 02:44 PM

I like the people that spend a ass load of money on mods and go to the point of weight reduction and then you see there 300 IB ass. the best thing they could do forthere car is go on Jenny Craig.

Natey

03-07-2003, 02:47 PM

Spicy MSP and turboge:
My buddie's got an RXS type S.
You did all you could.
Those things a faster than shit. It sucks saying this, but if the guy driving is even halfway competent, the RSX/S will smoke an MSP every time. :(

turboge

03-07-2003, 02:52 PM

I gutted my 91 protege LX out, later regretting it. I pulled out everything and it dropped the car 150lbs. I weigh 170, so basically just compensated for myself.

Fastest I ever managed to pilot that thing was a 13.73 @ 101mph. That was at 9.5psi on a dinky turbo and 14" falken azenis. (200whp & 2450lbs)

1sty

03-07-2003, 03:00 PM

I am more revering to a friend of mine with a spec V that hes has done about $2K to in mods and started weight reduction but he is 5'7" and 260 atleast. I think slim fast would be cheaper.

He wasn't happy when I told him I could get a second lower 1/4 mile time in his car.

MadBiker

03-07-2003, 05:26 PM

MacProtege5 claims a kill on an RSX. Check it out:

http://www.protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12367&perpage=15&highlight=shot&pagenumber=1

GOTZOOM?

06-08-2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by WaatDaHell
2.0 Liter producing 200 horspower, naturally-aspirated? I'll take the RSX Type-S any day.

The only 4 naturally aspirated cars producing at least 100 HP per liter are the Acura RSX Type-S, BMW M3, Ferrari 575M (I think, but one of the Ferrari's), and the most with 120 HP per liter, the Honda S2000.

For now, I'll just cruise with my pretty slow Protege5. (so sad...)

The RX-8 will be the King soon. 192 HP per Liter.(drive)

Micah

06-08-2003, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by WaatDaHell
2.0 Liter producing 200 horspower, naturally-aspirated? I'll take the RSX Type-S any day.

The only 4 naturally aspirated cars producing at least 100 HP per liter are the Acura RSX Type-S, BMW M3, Ferrari 575M (I think, but one of the Ferrari's), and the most with 120 HP per liter, the Honda S2000.

For now, I'll just cruise with my pretty slow Protege5. (so sad...)

This is going to be kind of embarrassing - but here goes

Toyota Matrix XRS and Pontiac Vibe GT

1.8 Liter Yamaha Engine - 180 HP - n/a

So I guess that raises your count to six? I think the Celica and Corolla S might use the same engine as well.

dmitrik4

06-13-2003, 02:34 PM

the corolla S is a regular 140HP corolla with largely cosmetic stuff. it definitely does NOT have the 180HP engine. although, the 140HP corolla is pretty quick in a straight line (for an economy car)..much quicker than any N/A Pro.

but you are right about the Vibe/Matrix/Celica engine...180HP, 1.8L. but very peaky, very unlike the RSX-S engine, which has really good midrange grunt.

the ferrari modena makes 395(?) hp from 3.6L, IIRC. the new Integra R makes ~220HP from 2.0L, i think.

kwiktsi

06-20-2003, 10:45 AM

I know this is old, but since this thread has been pointed out....

Originally posted by Daemos
Weather conditions affect how all cars run. I'm guessing it would affect how a turbo car runs, just a little more, but no more to be any noticable.

Yes, weather does affect all cars, however, turbo cras get it the worst... Drive a stock MSP on a 90 degree day after it is fully warmed up and then on a 60 degree day.. I have seen turbo cars lose over 20+ whp on hot days while tuning them. I would be willing to bet the MSP (stock) is worse on a hot day when it is hesitating :).
Joe

seth

07-06-2003, 08:15 AM

i love thoes mustang guns, well I like the ones that don't know how to launch their cars, they sit there and spin where as I launch with a little wheel spin and mash the peddle to 5,600rpm shift and kick the mustangs ass.
now that is funny, I know it is because of the driver but still funny

chillinmcmillan

07-29-2003, 02:00 AM

If you want revenge on that RSX than take him through some cones or a winding street. You will whip his ass!!!!

fastjosh

10-17-2003, 07:58 PM

i have a 1991 eclipse gsx before i blew my trans i could walk rsxtype s but msp make me look stupid i dont get it

fastjosh

10-17-2003, 08:00 PM

sorry had to switch key boards old one is shit

tritonheat1

10-19-2003, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by fastjosh
i have a 1991 eclipse gsx before i blew my trans i could walk rsxtype s but msp make me look stupid i dont get it

are you sure it was a Type-S? I'm sure the MSP and Type-S (STOCk) are about the same in performance Wise. It's just a Driver's race between the 2. Maybe you raced a Modded MSP slightly boosted.;)