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sjdmp5
03-12-2003, 11:06 PM
Mazda is saying that the MX Sportif has been developed to "blur the lines of traditional vehicle segmentation." If I hear another carmaker say this I'm going to throw up! I don't want a crossover vehicle! I don't want a tall wagon like the Matrix that has to be lowered 6 inches before it looks like our P5's do now! I want a car! Remember cars? What we used as transportation before the carmakers (notice the word car!) decided to tell us what we want. If Mazda builds the 3 as a matrix/vibe wannabe, I will be moving up to a 6 hatchback when my lease is up. I guess at 27 I'm just not the right target market, even though I can afford a $30,000 car, unlike most members of generation Y.

1sty
03-12-2003, 11:11 PM
I agree i think alot of us have become geteration:wtf: when it comes to this crap.

Unfortunily car manufactures make the most money on trucks these day and very little to none on cars. Is all about the $$$$

JasonH
03-12-2003, 11:52 PM
I think when everybody sees the 3 in person they'll calm down. It's not a freakin' Vibe, or a "tall wagon" or anything. Mazda moved the beltline of the car up, just look at the pictures with people in it or next to it. I doubt it will be more than an inch or two taller than the current Protege/P5, still nowhere near a Vibe or Matrix.

wongpres
03-14-2003, 10:24 AM
The Mazda3 will have have a sedan body-style as well, so just get that.

BSN_mt
03-14-2003, 10:59 AM
The vibe has a sedan body style too and it looks realy tall. At least they don't look at tall at the stupid Suzukis. I say a kid driving around a new suzuki yesterday with a big ricy bumper and a hood scoop. I am sorry, but those cars just remind me of the short bus. To tall for the width.

wongpres
03-14-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by BSN_mt
The vibe has a sedan body style too and it looks realy tall. At least they don't look at tall at the stupid Suzukis. I say a kid driving around a new suzuki yesterday with a big ricy bumper and a hood scoop. I am sorry, but those cars just remind me of the short bus. To tall for the width.


There is only a hatch/wagon style for the Pontiac Vibe, please show me a picture of this Pontiac Vibe sedan.

On the other hand, Mazda has confirmed that there will be both hatch/wagon and sedan bodystyles for the Mazda3, and here are some initial drawings from Autobild:

http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=3563

The Mazda3 will come in both sedan and hatch/wagon just like how there's a Pro and a P5.

Newf
03-14-2003, 11:41 AM
yeah really....great another 4 door from Mazda

Where's the MX3....gimme a two door coupe for god sakes!

And don't say the miata!

YellowMP5
03-14-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by sjdmp5
Mazda is saying that the MX Sportif has been developed to "blur the lines of traditional vehicle segmentation." If I hear another carmaker say this I'm going to throw up! I don't want a crossover vehicle! I don't want a tall wagon like the Matrix that has to be lowered 6 inches before it looks like our P5's do now! I want a car! Remember cars? What we used as transportation before the carmakers (notice the word car!) decided to tell us what we want. If Mazda builds the 3 as a matrix/vibe wannabe, I will be moving up to a 6 hatchback when my lease is up. I guess at 27 I'm just not the right target market, even though I can afford a $30,000 car, unlike most members of generation Y.

car? whats that? thats like 20th century.
now we have suv, xut, mudover, crossover, crosscountry, cross this and that, mut, xav, xuc....

i am just kidding, i am with you on this. i agree, cars are cool. i think matrix looks good on the PICTURES but when you see it in person, you realize its just way to tall like the aerios.

btw, when did GEN Y start anyway? like years and shit.

BlackMSP
03-20-2003, 05:50 AM
ya freal give me a dam 2 door already and DUMP THE STUPID MIATA its a cool little car and all, BUT ADD SOME POWER TO UR LINEUP PLEASE!

promp3
03-20-2003, 06:12 PM
I dont care what anybody says, it still looks like crap

Grimace
03-22-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by newf
yeah really....great another 4 door from Mazda

Where's the MX3....gimme a two door coupe for god sakes!

And don't say the miata!

Lots of used MX-3's for cheap on autotrader.ca
And whats wrong with the Miata? ;) Thats my next project car.

Newf
03-22-2003, 06:33 PM
nothing wrong with the miata, it's just that it's a completely useless car here in nfld. And I barely fit comfortably in one.

bwayout
04-07-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by newf
... Where's the MX3....gimme a two door coupe for god sakes! ...

I'd love to see a 2+2 fastback/hatchback Mazda3 at some future date!

:D

low_psi
04-07-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by newf

Where's the MX3....gimme a two door coupe for god sakes!



AMEN BROTHER!!
:cool:

chuyler1
04-07-2003, 05:41 PM
I think with all this retro shit, they should bring back RWD...c'mon, would the T-Bird sell if it wasn't RWD? No.

chuyler1
04-07-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by bwayout


I'd love to see a 2+2 fastback/hatchback Mazda3 at some future date!

:D

I'd love to see a 2+2 fastback/hatchback Mazda6 at some future date!

bwayout
04-07-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by chuyler1


I'd love to see a 2+2 fastback/hatchback Mazda6 at some future date!

... yeah, me too!

and yes, I truly miss those MX6/Probes - I had a 1990 Probe for almost 13 years (didn't want to part with it, but was car #4 in a 6 car acident last January and was totaled out)... and since the RX-8 wasn't out yet and I need a back seat for 2 car seats and like to have a hatch I went the way of the MP5.

Hey does anyone here know someone at Mazda that we could start a letter writting campaign to help get them thinking about starting production on a 2+2 fastback/hatchback Mazda6?

murdock_
04-07-2003, 07:13 PM
im 17 and that car has NO appeal to me.. is it a gonna be a soccer mom car? please tell me its not

bwayout
04-08-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by murdock_
im 17 and that car has NO appeal to me.. is it a gonna be a soccer mom car? please tell me its not

I hope it's not, also.

... Well what attracted me to the MP5 was the versatility that is offered if I need to carry large stuff ...

:D

... like when I was your age and use to be in a band and had to haul my big old Fender Bandmaster 200 watt tube amp and electic keyboard around to our gigs ... so I needed all the room I could get ...

;)

O.K., I admit I'm probably old enough to be your dad (and I don't think of myself as a "soccerdad" yet - only because my 2 kids are just a little to young to play)... But, I was originally looking at an Acura RSX or Celica, but ended up with the MP5 (partly because it was cheeper and I really realy want to buy an RX-8 in a couple of years anyway) plus the MP5 has 5 doors which on ocasion I need to take my car-seated kid somewhere or move something big ...

I aslo liked the fact that the MP5 is not a SUV, but a little sport wagon which drives and handles great! I hope that the new Mazda3 wagon (that's been seen from these autoshow pics) will carry the MP5 sports tradition farther ...

:cool:

slipangle
05-12-2003, 03:00 PM
Yeah, a RWD mazda for under 20K. I'm there dude!

Antoine
05-13-2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by murdock_
im 17 and that car has NO appeal to me.. is it a gonna be a soccer mom car? please tell me its not

That's absurd...that is not the direction Mazda is going...think of it as a next gen Protegé...is the current Protegé/P5 a soccer mom car...couldn't be farther from it...

Emode
05-20-2003, 02:46 AM
wide ratio no equal tall ratio, chodea

chuyler1
05-20-2003, 02:54 PM
I think there are alot of people out there driving SUVs that would be better off in something in the Protege5 class. How often do you actually see people sitting in the back of an SUV?

Natey
05-20-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by wongpres
The Mazda3 will have have a sedan body-style as well, so just get that.

...And you'll have a Corolla S. :rolleyes:

Natey
05-20-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by chuyler1


I'd love to see a 2+2 fastback/hatchback Mazda6 at some future date!

Here ya go...;) 4 doors, but it's a hatchback. A "Luxury Hatchback" to be precise.
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/carimages/mazda6_luxury_hatch.jpg
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1034674403.jpg

rednecks_r_us
07-29-2003, 11:54 AM
I think the M3 is down right ugly. If I wanted a mini van I would go to the Dodge dealer and get a Caravan. I think the M3 should come with the baby on board sticker and built in baby seats in back. ( I have a 2 year old)

The MP5 is am awesome car (not a SUV wanna-be). It is too bad that Mazda didn't send a survey to its current Mazda owners in North America.

From what I've seen is that most Mazda owners aren't in favor of it. Looks like a cross between the Honda Element and that Nissan SUV thing with a flair of the Toyota Matrix.

Any way I think the Mazda 3 is ugly, so the next new Mazda I buy will most likely be an RX-8.

gib
07-29-2003, 05:12 PM
Sorry You don't like the M3. I just love it. I like the agressive lines, the headlights, the front grill (both), the back, the motor (2.3l), the interior, the commodity (hatch), and the fun to drive (I'm sure it will be has fun if not better to drive than the P5). Don't forget, it's the same ration lenght/height as the P5. I can't wait to test-drive one!!!