Joe MBC Complete Install with pictures

[xsivspd]

These next pictures take you through the complete install of the JOE Manual boost controller installation.
Enjoy.
Get a pirce of 3/16 inner tube vacuum hose from autoparts store

[dominoy2k1]

:cool:

[xsivspd]

Then take the vacuum tube off the Tee leading from the BOV to the Wastegate.

[xsivspd]

The next picture is what the Tube looks like off the tee.
My thumb points to the vacuum tube that came off the T and my pointer finger denotes the T it came off of.

[xsivspd]

Now connect your 3/16 vacuum hose you bought from the store and connect it to the T and zip tie it down

[xsivspd]

Now connect the the MBC to the Vacuum hose leading to the WasteGate amd the zip tie it closed.

[xsivspd]

Now the next step is to connect the BOUGHT 3/16 vacuum hose to the MBC then zip tie it.
(This picture just shows excessivive tubing which will be cut to proper length in following pictures.)

[xsivspd]

Now the next picture shows the MBC together to the two vacuum lines.
(Yes I know the vacuum lines are not zip tied down as of yet.)

[xsivspd]

The next three pictures show the final install.

[xsivspd]

2/3 final. All zip tied down.

[xsivspd]

3/3 final install.

[ARunto]

GOOD WORK!!! pat on the back to xsivspd...thanks for the pics

[xsivspd]

Boost Taken from before installation of JOE MBC.

[xsivspd]

After install of Joe MBC.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[xsivspd]

This is my current look under the hood.
I made the cold air myself with parts that can be purchased from Performance Improvements in Toronto.

[ARunto]

so you where hitting less than 5 psi? only? how's it feel with 9.5?

[122 Vega]

Taking pics of the gauges at 110 mph?

Fun.

Britt

[xsivspd]

There is a DEFINITE fuel cut at 10 PSI.
I could not go any higher without the car jerking passed this point.
As Joe said in the past and I confirmed it that: 1st gear is just spinning of the tires, 2nd gear gives a very good 2 second spin of the tires and 3rd gear really gives you a pull. 4th and 5th gear seem to give about the same feeling as 5 PSI.
I am from CANADA amd I was reaching 110 KM in the picture of my boost gauge showing 9.5 PSI
This is just what the car needed, was an increase to the boost level.
I had to make SEVERAL passes to get the MBC set properly.
The method that JOEMBC says to blow into the controller did not work for me.
I would say to turn it out 3/4 of the way, then turn it 1/2 a revolution until you get close to 9 PSI then in smaller increments until you are satisfied.
This is a sure RECOMMENDED product!
Thanks Joe.

[yashooa]

You kick ass.
This whole MSP forum kicks a big thanks to all those who have posted such fine pics for us. I have kept them all.
Even I can do this now :)

[PaulMP3]

Originally posted by Albert
Hey all, I condensed the install process into a neat and tidy Word doc, complete with the pics - if anyone wants it, just PM me your email and I'll send it to you.

It's a great how-to, by the way. Thanks, xsivspd!

This is the first car I've owned that I've actually cared enough about to want to mod, and now I'm addicted to it! Is this normal? :D

send it to antoine and he will put it in the How to forum.

[Aaron]

where and what kind of boost gauge is that.

[xsivspd]

The gauge pod is from the following site:
http://mixx.8m.com/fic/
And the gauge is an Autometer Pro-Comp Ultra-Lite Boost Gauge.
They are both sold separately. The orange light on the boost gauge at night matches well with the stock gauges.
I figured that the MSP would not handle more than 15 PSI, I found out today that fuel cut is 10 PSI, so purchased a meter that reads up to 20 PSI.
Next will be exhaust, U&L intercooler piping and greddy type S valve. BUT first I want to enjoy and get used to the additional 5 PSI.

[unwrittenLaw]

Thanks for the How-To..
What are you gonna do if you have to go in for warranty work?

[Logan]

You have the same boost gauge I do.
Does it read less than 0 when the car is turned off?

Mine was at 0 until the first time I used it, now it's less than 0...

rrgh

[xsivspd]

In response to the meter, when car is shut off it always returns to the ZERO point.
This is the second day of 9.5 PSI and its total blast!
Hope everyone is enjoying their Joe MBC.

[JMS'sMSP]

You can get that gauge pod at protege5online.com for 75 bucks... Just so you know.

I think that is what I will do too since I dont really know the benefit of a a/f gauge anyway.

[serpentkilla1]

Do you have the screw turned all the way in on your controller? Thats the way mine is and still seems like it want to jump pass 10 psi

[tekkie]

thanks for the instructions xsivspd, I will be installing mine tonight :) this will make it nice and easy to do, do you have the part numbers for the intake? which improvements did u go to? any noticable gains with the intake?

[Logan]

Originally posted by serpentkilla1
Do you have the screw turned all the way in on your controller? Thats the way mine is and still seems like it want to jump pass 10 psi
Turn the screw OUT for less boost, IN for more boost.
Start with it OUT almost all the way, and then screw it in slowly as you drive around until you get the boost you want.

[sumixxam]

What are the part numbers for the intake parts?

[sumixxam]

What kind of gauge do you have and do you have the part number?......was it hard to install?

[Teamzero]

Any pics or instructions on the Boost Gauge install? :)

Nice Work BTW...

[SuperSpud]

dude,, you have NO CLUE how cool you are.. you just helped me sooooooo much.. THANK YOU!!!!!

[EVILSRT]

hey, did it get rid of the throttle surging????

Also how did you take the tubes off??

[xsivspd]

Hey you all, thanks for the appreciation to install instructions.
The K&N filter has made the bypass valve Very Loud and I see no reason to up to a different one since this does NOT leak.
The instructions for the boost gauge install is the from the following site:
http://church56.tripod.com/blitz.html
just substitute the DCTT2 for the manual gauge in the pod and you are set.
Hope this helps.
Magnus Motorsports has my car today and tomorrow to install the turbo back 3 inch exhaust. Marco will also be looking into a solution for the fuel cut. Will post pictures of completed exhaust on friday.

[tekkie]

Just got my MBC installed, damn I should have done this before it makes a big difference in spool up time, and the bypass valve is much louder now. The hardest part was getting the damn hoses off, after that it was simple, thanks to xsivspd ;) have to install my Blitz this weekend

umm 3 inch exhaust, you have to post pics of that, and get a dyno

did u get that piece of pipe for your filter at performance improvements ? what exactly is it? I need to get something cause I am not paying 300 bucks for a INJEN CAI thats just crazy

[DaKidd]

Good work, much smarter now... thanx!

[SuperSpud]

exactly how safe is runing 9psi?? I know it is only like, 2 psi higher.. but any long term effects?

[tekkie]

Originally posted by SuperSpud
exactly how safe is runing 9psi?? I know it is only like, 2 psi higher.. but any long term effects?
as far as we all know it is safe, apparently Calloway tested it at 9 and it was cool, if not I hope mine blows up before the warranty ends :D

[FrigginGLI]

What does 9 Psi equate to in tq. About a 30-40 lb ft tq jump ?

[Apexi]

Originally posted by Logan
You have the same boost gauge I do.
Does it read less than 0 when the car is turned off?

Mine was at 0 until the first time I used it, now it's less than 0...

rrgh

send it back to the company..theyll recalabrate it for free (yes, im back..got an email that someone replied to a topic i was in..)

[enry]

Taking pics of the gauges at 110 mph?

Fun.

Britt
KM/h.

xsivspd, how is your car running now? No problems going from 5psi to 10 like that? No side effects after almost a year of use?

[xsivspd]

Absolutely no concern with 10 PSI.
I am currently at 14 PSI for the past months with no failures to this point.
Except for the clutch which burnt out, now running ACT 4 puck and a fidanza flywheel which took some time to get used to. I am now awaiting the next portion of EMS.
Have a great day.


KM/h.

xsivspd, how is your car running now? No problems going from 5psi to 10 like that? No side effects after almost a year of use?

[Brannon]

Wow man thanks for the great how to. What a help. I just ordered my joep and already know how to install. I know it's been said a few times before me, but thanks! Also good to know 10psi is safe. I have similar mods (injen cai, corksport exhaust) and was a little unsure of how much boost over stock I should go. Thanks again!!

[ghettoliscious]

My setup is completly different from the one that's posted. Heres the pic. Which lines do I connect to the mbc?

http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~fkaspar/engine1.jpg

[ghettoliscious]

My setup looks completly different from the one thats posted. Which lines do I connect the MBC to?
http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~fkaspar/engine1.jpg

[FlyinMSP]

Your setup is not stock. Someone changed the lines. From the picture is hard to tell where the wastegate line feeds from, I see no "T" junction. (unless is the white one)

I changed my monitor settings and now I can see better. The line to use is the one at the bottom, just after the "T" (white), straight down.