50 shot Wet?

[2020Pro5]

I was thinking about a suggestion of putting a 50 shot of nos in my car. Tell me anything, experiences (good or bad). What brand is the best, worst, whatever. Thanks a lot

[L8R]

another hawaii person haha co.Ol. sorry dont know anythin bout nos heh peace - chris

[Pro Fiz]

NOS is a company, and i belive they make dry kits.... nitrous express makes a good wet kit for our car, 35,50,75 hp jets. i plan on getting it soon... and welcome to the site :D

[LinuxRacr]

Stay away from dry kits. That is all.

R.I.P. My 1st engine... :( Someone pour out some liquor.....

[Stealth5]

so sorry, but i dont remember what makes it wet or dry, all i know is a little 50hp boost would be niiiice...maybe even 35

[LinuxRacr]

Dry Shot=nitrous shot into your intake piping, before the throttle body to mix with the air, possibly making inconsistant mixtures in each cylinder.

Wet Shot=nitrous shot directly into your intake manifold with fuel into each intake track after the throttle bodie. Your manifold will have to be drilled and tapped for each nitrous/fuel jet.

[L8R]

isnt it expensive to install wet? and if u wanna take it out later, u gotta buy a new manifold? sorry dont know anything :P - chris

[LinuxRacr]

Originally posted by L8R
isnt it expensive to install wet? and if u wanna take it out later, u gotta buy a new manifold? sorry dont know anything :P - chris

Something like that.

[Jeph]

Its about the same price for either kit actually. Personally, i've seen too many engines go cause the driver decided to get cocky and up his shot. Save that 4-500 and put it towards a turbo, much better investment.
Oh and if you are fairly competent about your engine, you can install a N20 kit in a few hours. Or you can pay someone $150 to do it for you...

[LinuxRacr]

More info that you want is here: http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19153

[2020Pro5]

Nah, I really don't know guys, I would want a turbo, but team pro5 is about to get a wave of turbos. A lot of the members are planning to be turboed. I would love a turbo because Dave and I did a lot with the P5 motor, so I kinda have an idea of what is involved. I was thinking of doing something different though. However, I need something a little less maintanence where I could still have fun here and there. I have an idea why not to run a dry setup but don't know enough about NOS in general. I wouldn't be using it all the time, maybe once or twice a week. Would it be safe to run a wet shot though?

Thanks, Lanson

[L8R]

yo, if u are really serious, my friend has a NOS kit for sale, for like 300/400 or so with full set up. only used twice? just pm me or leave me a note and i can call him up and get more info for u peace - chris

[duMb KeoLa]

what about going turbo and nos????? im gonna do it and need to know the goods and the bads of it....motor work to be done so thats a plus..

[perfworks]

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19153

you beat me to it linux! ;)

[perfworks]

Originally posted by duMb KeoLa
what about going turbo and nos????? im gonna do it and need to know the goods and the bads of it....motor work to be done so thats a plus..

keola everything discussed in linuxs' thread about breaking a rod will take effect here. do it right and get the bottom end done.;)

[falkofire]

so rods and pistons? is that all that would be involved?

[perfworks]

rod and piston upgrade. in other words that will be the only two components you would REPLACE FROM THE STOCK ONES. the rest is misc gaskets, seals, bearings etc. from the mazda dealer in stock form.

[RAAZ227]

NOS ...... booooooooooooo :mad:

"hp in a bottle"??? More like fake HP! :D

[Pro Fiz]

Originally posted by RAAZ227
NOS ...... booooooooooooo :mad:

"hp in a bottle"??? More like fake HP! :D

How is it fake horsepower? (huh)

[L8R]

hey keola/808 people. 300$ obo, dry, single port/injector with purge kit. 60 shot i think. the brand is NOS. used once or twice on a civic before. let me know peace - chris

[falkofire]

hehe..so many threads talking about how dry is bad...and now u trying to sell one...good luck is all I can say

[L8R]

:) haha falk, worth a try but true. lol - chris

[duMb KeoLa]

yep, sorry chris, going for a 50-75 shot wet kit, thanks though

[Patio]

Originally posted by LinuxRacr
Dry Shot=nitrous shot into your intake piping, before the throttle body to mix with the air, possibly making inconsistant mixtures in each cylinder.

Wet Shot=nitrous shot directly into your intake manifold with fuel into each intake track after the throttle bodie. Your manifold will have to be drilled and tapped for each nitrous/fuel jet. umm no, wet shot has nothing to do with drilling the intake manifold

http://www.protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10950&highlight=nitrous+patio

[RAAZ227]

Originally posted by Pro Fiz


How is it fake horsepower? (huh)

Cause you don't use the engine to make HP. You take a NOS car and a turbo car. 1st you can really only spray for 15 sec or so. 2- Can't rev limiter very often. 3- greater risk of blowing your motor. It's just like " hold on, let me turn my bottle on before I race you" :rolleyes:

[perfworks]

Originally posted by RAAZ227


Cause you don't use the engine to make HP.

come on raazz !! your a good guy so stop making these comments so i can flame you!!;) :D
what are you using you feet like in the flinstones:p

[Pro Fiz]

Originally posted by RAAZ227


Cause you don't use the engine to make HP. You take a NOS car and a turbo car. 1st you can really only spray for 15 sec or so. 2- Can't rev limiter very often. 3- greater risk of blowing your motor. It's just like " hold on, let me turn my bottle on before I race you" :rolleyes:

So would you concider n/a engine "fake horsepower" too because the engine doesn't make the air or the gas to burn? Why would you want to spray for more than 15 seconds anyway, its just for drag racing really, if you need to spray more than 15 seconds to make it down the quarter, then the nitrous isn't really helping you.. But i understand what your saying

[RAAZ227]

Originally posted by Pro Fiz


So would you concider n/a engine "fake horsepower" too because the engine doesn't make the air or the gas to burn? Why would you want to spray for more than 15 seconds anyway, its just for drag racing really, if you need to spray more than 15 seconds to make it down the quarter, then the nitrous isn't really helping you.. But i understand what your saying

No I wouldn't consider a N/A engine fake HP. A N/A car make it's HP internally. Pistons, headwork, intake manifold, exhaust, etc. Yea I agree NOS is good for drag racing. A lot of Full racers use NOS to spool there turbo out of the hole. A T66 is reallt hard to with a low compression B18. , ect. NOS for street use is, :bs:

[Pro Fiz]

NOS for street use is, :bs:

I agree

[perfworks]

Originally posted by RAAZ227


No I wouldn't consider a N/A engine fake HP. A N/A car make it's HP internally. Pistons, headwork, intake manifold, exhaust, etc. Yea I agree NOS is good for drag racing. A lot of Full racers use NOS to spool there turbo out of the hole. A T66 is reallt hard to with a low compression B18. , ect. NOS for street use is, :bs:

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

are you kidding me
this thread has turned into the worlds largest misinformation posting board .
where are you coming up with this nonsense. we are trying to keep this info on here as specific and FACTUAL as possible. raz, this must be a joke or something. stop please. you are talking like your high on crack and like to comb barbies in a dark room with your imaginary friend.
holy sh*t i cant beleive...................... i need to breathe now ill be back soon........................

[RAAZ227]

Originally posted by perfworks


:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

are you kidding me
this thread has turned into the worlds largest misinformation posting board .
where are you coming up with this nonsense. we are trying to keep this info on here as specific and FACTUAL as possible. raz, this must be a joke or something. stop please. you are talking like your high on crack and like to comb barbies in a dark room with your imaginary friend.
holy sh*t i cant beleive...................... i need to breathe now ill be back soon........................


What the H*LL are YOU talking about. Just stating my opinion on NOS!!! What is SO informative about it!!! NOS plain sucks. So your telling me that DRAG Hondas (which I own) dont use NOS to spool out of the hole. Go to a drag race and take a look buddy!

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Also since no one here has a full race P5 or MP3 , then.....what else are they gonna use NOS for???..........uhhh......street use!
:rolleyes:

[perfworks]

Originally posted by RAAZ227



What the H*LL are YOU talking about. Just stating my opinion on NOS!!! What is SO informative about it!!! NOS plain sucks. So your telling me that DRAG Hondas (which I own) dont use NOS to spool out of the hole. Go to a drag race and take a look buddy!

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Also since no one here has a full race P5 or MP3 , then.....what else are they gonna use NOS for???..........uhhh......street use!
:rolleyes:
you need to slow down and READ EVERY WORD I HAVE POSTED. if you need me to space the words out for you let me know;)
""your not using the engine to make hp""
was this my comment or yours?
this forum is supposed to provide accurate information to its members. your opinion is fine . but when you start to talk about the operation characteristics of a 4cycle internal combustion engine you are starting to play with proven facts.
let everybody go thru all your posts on this thread and see what im talking about. you are posting misinformation. i am not calling you stupid but it is iggnorant when someone is trying to tell you that your theory isnt quite right and you then continue with the nonsence without any verifiable proof of WHY IT IS AS YOU CLAIM.

and did you SEE A POST FROM ME SAYING """ NO THEY DO NOT USE IT TO LAUNCH"
your mind is running around in circles to fast and your not paying attention.
"" fake horsepower"" come on man :rolleyes:
listen go open a thread in the performance section about NOS and wee will discuss it so we can get some of these myths out in the open. im serious . because you are wrong in some of your assumtions. this is not to put you down , but it will help you understand things a little better;)

[RAAZ227]

Originally posted by perfworks

you need to slow down and READ EVERY WORD I HAVE POSTED. if you need me to space the words out for you let me know;)
""your not using the engine to make hp""
was this my comment or yours?
this forum is supposed to provide accurate information to its members. your opinion is fine . but when you start to talk about the operation characteristics of a 4cycle internal combustion engine you are starting to play with proven facts.
let everybody go thru all your posts on this thread and see what im talking about. you are posting misinformation. i am not calling you stupid but it is iggnorant when someone is trying to tell you that your theory isnt quite right and you then continue with the nonsence without any verifiable proof of WHY IT IS AS YOU CLAIM.

and did you SEE A POST FROM ME SAYING """ NO THEY DO NOT USE IT TO LAUNCH"
your mind is running around in circles to fast and your not paying attention.
"" fake horsepower"" come on man :rolleyes:
listen go open a thread in the performance section about NOS and wee will discuss it so we can get some of these myths out in the open. im serious . because you are wrong in some of your assumtions. this is not to put you down , but it will help you understand things a little better;)


The whole statement was towards NOS. How NOS is sprayed via direct port or dry set up. All your doing is hitting a switch (throttle activated or button) that triggers a relay to spay the liquid in the intake mani, or b/f throttle body. The reason why I don't like NOS is because it's inconsistant power. Turbo set ups are driven by exhaust and supchergers are driven by belt via crank. :rolleyes: (everyone knows that) With is turbo and S Charger being that way it just feels more raw. :D

[perfworks]

Originally posted by RAAZ227



The whole statement was towards NOS. How NOS is sprayed via direct port or dry set up. All your doing is hitting a switch (throttle activated or button) that triggers a relay to spay the liquid in the intake mani, or b/f throttle body. The reason why I don't like NOS is because it's inconsistant power. Turbo set ups are driven by exhaust and supchergers are driven by belt via crank. :rolleyes: (everyone knows that) With is turbo and S Charger being that way it just feels more raw. :D but were not debating turbo or nos create your own thread and argue that point. im not telling you your right or wrong with that theory. we are talking about wet or dry nos right now . so keep it to those posts. make another if you choose to add more to it.thanks:D

[acidbbg]

Both Wet and Dry Kits Shoot into the intake!! Nitrous is not cheating...The people who say it is are pissed b/c you can get about the same horse power with nitrous for not even half the Price!

Anyone want to compare numbers...Nitrous is the best hp for the dollar!

It's only cheating if you don't tell the person you are racing that you have nitrous!

NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems...NOt Nitrous!! Get it straight!!

I am not downing anyone who gets a turbo...if i could afford one..i would have gotten one instead..but i am a college student..and this is better for me..b/c i don't have $3,000 for a sweet tubo system!!!

Do Not Use a Dry System w/ the protege's...Wet is always better!!!

Chas

[perfworks]

Originally posted by acidbbg
Both Wet and Dry Kits Shoot into the intake!! Nitrous is not cheating...The people who say it is are pissed b/c you can get about the same horse power with nitrous for not even half the Price!

Anyone want to compare numbers...Nitrous is the best hp for the dollar!

It's only cheating if you don't tell the person you are racing that you have nitrous!

NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems...NOt Nitrous!! Get it straight!!

I am not downing anyone who gets a turbo...if i could afford one..i would have gotten one instead..but i am a college student..and this is better for me..b/c i don't have $3,000 for a sweet tubo system!!!

Do Not Use a Dry System w/ the protege's...Wet is always better!!!

Chas
its about time you made an appearance on this thread ;)

[acidbbg]

Sorry my Home computer is down..I am installing Windows ME so that i can start uploading and editing some Movies...

Chas

[LinuxRacr]

Originally posted by acidbbg
Both Wet and Dry Kits Shoot into the intake!! Nitrous is not cheating...The people who say it is are pissed b/c you can get about the same horse power with nitrous for not even half the Price!

Anyone want to compare numbers...Nitrous is the best hp for the dollar!

It's only cheating if you don't tell the person you are racing that you have nitrous!

NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems...NOt Nitrous!! Get it straight!!

I am not downing anyone who gets a turbo...if i could afford one..i would have gotten one instead..but i am a college student..and this is better for me..b/c i don't have $3,000 for a sweet tubo system!!!

Do Not Use a Dry System w/ the protege's...Wet is always better!!!

Chas

(werd) I'm with you on this...

[mp3_moran]

Originally posted by LinuxRacr
Wet Shot=nitrous shot directly into your intake manifold with fuel into each intake track after the throttle bodie. Your manifold will have to be drilled and tapped for each nitrous/fuel jet.

I'm surprised noone has said anything about this, and I'm not dogging on Linux in any way, but this is completely wrong. A wet set up only refers to when you inject both fuel and n2o. It can be plumbed anywhere on the intake tract (where a dry setup would go) and most wet kits use a single nozzle fitted with both a fuel and n2o jet plumbed right before the throttle body. What you were describing Linux is a direct port set up. They are the most precise setup you can get as far as n2o is concerned. Each cylinder gets it's own set of jets, one for fuel and one for n2o. Everything is metered so you run the LEAST risk of all the setups of blowing a motor.
Now as far as dry setups, most do include some form of fuel enrichment when your on the bottle. Most of the time it comes from increasing the fual pressure to the stock injectors.
And as far as weather n2o is cheating? The only people I see who whine about it are the ones who are too scared to use it......but that's just my opinion. n2o is classed as a power adder just like turbos and s chargers....one's mechanical the other's chemical.

[2020Pro5]

Thanks for all your help guys. But I agree with acid bug. I don't have an extra 3,000 dollars for a turbo kit. But, as much as I'd like one, I can't have everything. Chances are I will do the NOS in the future just to get that extra boost and power on tap when I need it. Thanks again.

[duMb KeoLa]

is there such thing as direct port injection with the wet nitro set up?? if so, is there one that we can slap in our cars??? anyone got a link or experience with this...

[acidbbg]

They do have direct port..but unfortunatley i don't know much about it...check out

www.nitrousexpress.com

Chas

[duMb KeoLa]

how hard was it to install your set up acid?? and what kinda set up is yours from the site?? or you got a different set up thats not on the site...

[acidbbg]

Actually the setup i have is part# 20923 NX Wet Kit..it's a universal kit! I believe you can do a search and pull it up on their site..they also include directions & pictures on how to install..if you need more pictures specific to the Pro5..i am willing to get some together!!

I did not do the install..i had a proffesional install it...b/c of the wiring schematics...But if i knew what i know now..i would have installed it myself!

I would say on a scale of 1 being hard..and 10 cake...

I would rate it 6.5

Chas

[acidbbg]

Selling My nitrous kit if anyone is interested!

Check my sig

Chas

[LinuxRacr]

I'm shipping this off to the Nitrous section...

[pdhaudio83]

bump, im selling mine.

[brucelee]

nitrous would be more economical than turbo right? aside from the price of the actual kit, you wouldn't need to switch to higher octane, and you wouldn't need to use it at every stop light, just when you need it...is that right?

[acidbbg]

Yeah..It's very economical! I ran nitrous for like 7months..before switching over to a turbo kit! It's not something you would use every single day..but rather..weekends..and such!

Chas

[pdhaudio83]

you would need a tank 100% highest octane (91+) when running, but other than that, you can run 87 octane. do NOT use nitrous with ANYTHING less than 91 octane! it is a good idea to nearly run out of fuel and then fill up with 91+ octane to steer clear of problems, and again

I AM selling my nitrous kit with goodies! see for sale section for info!

[deckedoutmp5]

nitrous is great, its not cheating. but if we are goin to race and you say, "oh my bottle isnt warm yet" or "im low on pressure" or you think you have to purge more then .2 seconds (because thats all it takes) then you are a moron and retard. Also dont be a dumb ass and be like, " i gots a 50 shot yo" they are underrated with shot factors. so take that in account when you decide what you want to run.

also you want to make sure you use a window swich. keep is safe.

side note. dry systems are not bad, bad for our application yes, but if done right they are great.

peace- trav

oh BTW, i am goin to be running a 35 shot on top of my turbo.

[infrared5]

I have a 50 shot wet on my p5, and I dont care what anybody says, i love it. I hate to quote such a cheesy movie but its true, "winnins winnin". The whole point of buildin a car is to make it go fast, and nitrous does just that, so why complain? I dont knock anything that makes a car go fast. Why not just give props and move on?

For anybody looking for info:
I have a Nitrous Express kit, wet, 50 shot
my motor runs rich (good) and have no problems. I have ran about 10 bottles of nitrous through it and have spanked most of the competition. Its easy to put in, and makes ya go fast, good luck TO ALL.

[pdhaudio83]

Read that everyone. It works on non advanced timing cars!! BUY MY KIT :D

[Replica]

It's only cheating if you lose.

[acidbbg]

I have a 50 shot wet on my p5, and I dont care what anybody says, i love it. I hate to quote such a cheesy movie but its true, "winnins winnin". The whole point of buildin a car is to make it go fast, and nitrous does just that, so why complain? I dont knock anything that makes a car go fast. Why not just give props and move on?

For anybody looking for info:
I have a Nitrous Express kit, wet, 50 shot
my motor runs rich (good) and have no problems. I have ran about 10 bottles of nitrous through it and have spanked most of the competition. Its easy to put in, and makes ya go fast, good luck TO ALL.

(werd)

Chas

[1ofdfew323]

Cause you don't use the engine to make HP. You take a NOS car and a turbo car. 1st you can really only spray for 15 sec or so. 2- Can't rev limiter very often. 3- greater risk of blowing your motor. It's just like " hold on, let me turn my bottle on before I race you" :rolleyes:
15 sec...no , rule of thumb is more like 8 sec. "can't rev limiter very often"? i dont know wut ur trying say here. greater risk of blowing ur motor? the only risk that ur gonna get out of shooting nos is if the nox was installed fucked up then u get a blown motor 2nd if the user abused the nox ie. shooting nox all 3 races at the same time is a no, no. atleast 2 races then let it sit (idle) for a while b4 shutting down the motor. no power shifting while shooting nos in between. btw they do make the remote bottle opener.

i'd say u wear ur engine more by slapping a turbo or even on a stock turbo vehicle. Allmotor is not a very good option especially on a daily driven vehicle. Nos is the way to go just use it only when needed and wisely.

>dont have nox on my cars now but i plan on shooting soon. Used to shoot back 3 years ago and i was running it for 2 years never had anyproblems w/ the car but a overheated brakes...

[Stealth5]

http://public.nelson-atkins.org/host_pics/dude/dude_2.jpg

[Patio]

lol, I never heard it called NOX, but i just fixed mine! time to go back to the track :D
(dance)

[hi-perf]

lol, I never heard it called NOX, but i just fixed mine! time to go back to the track :D
(dance)
any other mods making you run that 14?

[Patio]

any other mods making you run that 14?nope, i even had the stock shifter, stock exhaust, stock springs, stock dunlops, stock radio (dance)

[1ofdfew323]

I have a 50 shot wet on my p5, and I dont care what anybody says, i love it. I hate to quote such a cheesy movie but its true, "winnins winnin". The whole point of buildin a car is to make it go fast, and nitrous does just that, so why complain? I dont knock anything that makes a car go fast. Why not just give props and move on?

For anybody looking for info:
I have a Nitrous Express kit, wet, 50 shot
my motor runs rich (good) and have no problems. I have ran about 10 bottles of nitrous through it and have spanked most of the competition. Its easy to put in, and makes ya go fast, good luck TO ALL.
when u say ur car runs rich u meant its already running rich from the factory or u had to trick the PCM to run rich? juwt wondering cuz im planning on shooting too. thx!

[1ofdfew323]

NOX= nitrous oxide, even if u aint shooting nox most of the car produces nox that is y we have 3 way cat. to cut down the nox in the atmosphere. SMOGTECH<<<
NOS= is the company name

[lasermp5]

lol, why not direct port injection? AND A TURBO......... MwAhAhAhAhA!!!!!!! (laugh)