View Full Version : my car is devouring nitrous!
pdhaudio83
08-20-2003, 10:29 PM
OK- LOL- get this I filled the bottle Aug 8, use it in the car first time yesterday, needed refill today, now as it stands at this moment, im again down to 1/2 a bottle (19.5lbs with bottle weight)
UGH!!!
Course I was racing my friend in his RS Eclipse and an OLD ricer honda accord, in addition to a nicer eclipse with a huge stock spoiler...> :D beat em all except my friend in his RS. I was holding ground- he sucks at lauching and i had 4 people in my car and pressure was in the yellow.
Matthew
08-20-2003, 10:30 PM
damn dude that sounds expensive as hell? how much are you using it? arent you worried about using it too much on your engine?
MikeBlueP5
08-20-2003, 10:49 PM
his car is an addict already, it likes being high!
pdhaudio83
08-20-2003, 10:59 PM
(lol)
YA ITS EXPENSIVE!!
im not too worried at this point, although i have NOT even got close to redlining it, i know at higher RPMS= potential lean issues.
trying to aviod high rpms, but 2nite went to 6500 :)
I thought the protege was the opposite way, At high RPMs the O2 sensors a/f is no longer listened to to adjust the fuel and the car goes off pretermined fuel maps making the car rich. It was for this reason the turbo guy ( myself) need a device to stop the computer form pulling away extra fuel in lower RPMs (the FP voltage clamp)
I don't know N20 so I may have your needs ass backwards.
pdhaudio83
08-20-2003, 11:07 PM
maybe possible, esp since our cars have two different size injectors.... anyone shed some more light here? higher rpm is safe or should i still be worried about running lean
Originally posted by pdhaudio
maybe possible, esp since our cars have two different size injectors.... anyone shed some more light here? higher rpm is safe or should i still be worried about running lean
Unless you changed injectors, I have the same car you do, MP3. Same injector. Either way when in lower RPMs the computer will do what ever is needed to obtain a 14.7:1 ratio. Thats why we needed the clamp. The extra fuel we dumped in by restricting th ereturn line did nothing in lower RPMS. The damn car saw ti was to rich and pulled the fuel away, up to 30%.
Is a large fuel injector comperable to the increased pressure, maybe, I can see the computer pulling pressure back on the injectors spray to get to the 14.7:1.
acidbbg
08-20-2003, 11:43 PM
OK- LOL- get this I filled the bottle Aug 8, use it in the car first time yesterday, needed refill today, now as it stands at this moment, im again down to 1/2 a bottle (19.5lbs with bottle weight)
UGH!!!
Course I was racing my friend in his RS Eclipse and an OLD ricer honda accord, in addition to a nicer eclipse with a huge stock spoiler...> beat em all except my friend in his RS. I was holding ground- he sucks at lauching and i had 4 people in my car and pressure was in the yellow.
It's verry addictive..That's why you need to pick your battles..when you use the gas...I kill civics/accords (non v6) all the time w/ out the nitrous...Only on the turbo guys..or the cars that are obivously faster i use the gas with!!!
damn dude that sounds expensive as hell? how much are you using it? arent you worried about using it too much on your engine?
It's expensive by me also... $4.50 per lb..@ 10lbs..You can do the math!!
He has the p5 ecu..not to mention..he is only using a 50shot..He should be fine!!
:D
I thought the protege was the opposite way, At high RPMs the O2 sensors a/f is no longer listened to to adjust the fuel and the car goes off pretermined fuel maps making the car rich. It was for this reason the turbo guy ( myself) need a device to stop the computer form pulling away extra fuel in lower RPMs (the FP voltage clamp)
I don't know N20 so I may have your needs ass backwards.
You are correct 1st...The car runs rich at the higher gears...But in 5th w/ nitrous..It can be dangerous!! The sudden hp..added!!
maybe possible, esp since our cars have two different size injectors.... anyone shed some more light here? higher rpm is safe or should i still be worried about running lean
W/ the small shot you are running you should be fine..But that doesn't mean..see how fast your car can go w/ the nitrous tryin to do 130mph...But I am just goin on what people tell me!!
I very occasionally use it in 5th..
But 1st -4th is golden!! Just don't hit the rev limiter..or pow!!
Unless you changed injectors, I have the same car you do, MP3. Same injector. Either way when in lower RPMs the computer will do what ever is needed to obtain a 14.7:1 ratio. Thats why we needed the clamp. The extra fuel we dumped in by restricting th ereturn line did nothing in lower RPMS. The damn car saw ti was to rich and pulled the fuel away, up to 30%.
Is a large fuel injector comperable to the increased pressure, maybe, I can see the computer pulling pressure back on the injectors spray to get to the 14.7:1.
1st is correct again..Same injectors..as the mp3/p5/protege
NOT the same w/ the Speed!
Those problems he talks about is not a problem for us..We have the jets that control the amount of fuel!!
Gotta Love NX setup!
Chas:D
LinuxRacr
08-20-2003, 11:47 PM
The injectors for the Mazdaspeed are the same as the other Proteges.
Yep, linux is correct!
Acid, I fucked a little dog there, I ment to say lower RPMS not gears but gears too, to an extend.
How does the NX system aviod the computer seeing the extra fuel and lowing its own output pressure and volume?
pdhaudio83
08-20-2003, 11:51 PM
2 green and 2 purple ones u mean right
acidbbg
08-21-2003, 12:09 AM
How does the NX system aviod the computer seeing the extra fuel and lowing its own output pressure and volume?
i only use nitrous at WOT ...and u stated..That there are specific maps the mp3 uses at wot..And that's why the car doesn't pull fuel!
At high RPMs the O2 sensors a/f is no longer listened to to adjust the fuel and the car goes off pretermined fuel maps making the car rich.
As you stated..
Chas:D
GOt it,
The car has to be in the upper ranges not just with the gas pedal all the way depressed. Form FP's info it is dependant on load not throttle position.
pdhaudio83
08-21-2003, 10:22 AM
good, now im not all that worried about WOT with nitrous in the higher rpms :)
Joe PR5
08-21-2003, 10:29 AM
can you shoot a video when you use the NOS and post it on the site? That would be rad!!!!!
pdhaudio83
08-21-2003, 12:11 PM
well ya i could, but you all seem to expect some tire shredding video :D i'll see if i can get my dad (MSP) to race me :D
pdhaudio83
08-21-2003, 12:11 PM
not to forget nitrous is $4.50/lb and a race would likely cost $15
Micah
08-21-2003, 12:36 PM
yeah, Nitrous is expensive, and addictive.
Turbo doesn't need a refill. But I am looking at the NX NTercooler kit - anyone know how much CO2 costs? I would hope cheaper than N2O.
pdhaudio83
08-21-2003, 12:52 PM
MUCH cheaper and READILY available. you can get co2 from most carbonic places (Its used to carbonate beverages, remember)
should be cheap.
Joe PR5
08-21-2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Micah
yeah, Nitrous is expensive, and addictive.
Turbo doesn't need a refill. But I am looking at the NX NTercooler kit - anyone know how much CO2 costs? I would hope cheaper than N2O.
Whats that?
Vulcanon
08-21-2003, 02:03 PM
sprays into the intercooler to further cool the air
pdhaudio83
08-21-2003, 02:04 PM
check it out
www.nitrousexpress.com
Ntercooler. its on the front page with the disgraceful F+F bottle
Joe PR5
08-21-2003, 02:05 PM
is that just for turbo cars? Or do they make something like that for none turbo cars? any effect on the engine?
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/welcome.htm
Its for turbo cars that ar not good for nitrous.
acidbbg
08-21-2003, 02:30 PM
Here's some Video's of me using the nitrous..and doing some insane burn out's!! Enjoy!
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/me_vs_eclipse_turbo.mpg
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/me_vs_eclipse_turbo2.mpg
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/me_vs_primo.mpg
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/primo_burn_out.mpg
Chas:cool:
Joe PR5
08-21-2003, 03:05 PM
Video is not working
acidbbg
08-21-2003, 03:37 PM
Image Station Blows..I got it to work..when i first created it..now..nothing..anyone know a better place for streaming vidoes??
Chas
bud_d
08-22-2003, 03:34 PM
just right click and download the link to disk
pdhaudio83
08-22-2003, 03:39 PM
nice vids, some are kinda blurry
Micah
08-22-2003, 03:52 PM
fuzzy image, low fps, and in what looks like a k-mart/walmart parking lot.
classic!
White 6s
08-23-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by acidbbg
Here's some Video's of me using the nitrous..and doing some insane burn out's!! Enjoy!
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/me_vs_eclipse_turbo.mpg
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/me_vs_eclipse_turbo2.mpg
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/me_vs_primo.mpg
http://acidbbg.tripod.com/video/primo_burn_out.mpg
Chas:cool:
damn you guys are ricey as hell...i've been streetracing for years...and never seen people stage races in a parking lot..usually chill til someone talks sh*t then drive off to a spot..but race in a lot. damn...how times are changing with the FnF crowd.
pdhaudio83
08-23-2003, 10:33 PM
a big lot? whats wrong with big lots? FnF crowd? STREET racing is not only illegal, but HIGHLY dangerous. I dont see how you get Fnf crowd from lot racing, where in Fnf did they LOT race?
Ricey as hell? howso?
Apparently racing on the street is some how cooler.
perfworks
08-23-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by White 6s
damn you guys are ricey as hell...i've been streetracing for years...and never seen people stage races in a parking lot..usually chill til someone talks sh*t then drive off to a spot..but race in a lot. damn...how times are changing with the FnF crowd.
here we go with the fast and the furious shit talkers coming out of the woodwork :rolleyes:
pdhaudio83
08-23-2003, 10:53 PM
yeah :confused:
pdhaudio83
08-23-2003, 10:54 PM
someone tell me, is there something hugely wrong with doing a little staging in a big parking lot? perfworks and 1st mp3, were you aggreeing with me or am i just confused
perfworks
08-23-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by pdhaudio
someone tell me, is there something hugely wrong with doing a little staging in a big parking lot? perfworks and 1st mp3, were you aggreeing with me or am i just confused
i was agreeing.
i dont see what the big deal is. is this shit with these losers going to continue here like on the other boards. fellow members talking shit about bullshit? :confused:
what the fuck is wrong with getting some races together.
at least they are not out there giving people heartattacks while on the road and putting the entire world in danger because some prick has a fucking hard on for another car.
you know whats rice? some idiot coming on and saying " ive been street racing for years" blah blah blah get over yourself and stop fucking with people to make yourself feel better about your insecurities
fuck im in a bad mood tonite:mad:
I was agreeing to P!
Nick read my Smolten: A history thread, It will cheer you up.
I have lost patience for people only wanting to cause issues and talk smack.
My new phylosophy "If you have nothing useful to say, IAM CHASING YOU THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!"
(thumb)
perfworks
08-23-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
I was agreeing to P!
Nick read my Smolten: A history thread, It will cheer you up.
I have lost patience for people only wanting to cause issues and talk smack.
My new phylosophy "If you have nothing useful to say, IAM CHASING YOU THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!"
(thumb)
im getting on the band wagon now before it gets too late!!:D
perfworks
08-23-2003, 11:07 PM
you know i just happened to look at your avatar and you have almost 8000 posts!!!!!!!! holly shiat:eek:
pdhaudio83
08-23-2003, 11:08 PM
:D im so glad ur back perf, things werent the same without your posts everywhere ;) :p
8000 should be around mid september.
perfworks
08-23-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by pdhaudio
:D im so glad ur back perf, things werent the same without your posts everywhere ;) :p
thanks:D
perfworks
08-23-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
8000 should be around mid september.
LOL:)
im shooting for 2100 by tonite
White 6s
08-24-2003, 12:55 AM
if you're gonna drag or at least run the risk of getting busted for it...why not go a full quarter mile..even in an empty bigger lot..u get what 35-45 mph? what's the point? to outlaunch someone? why even bother for people to stage and race a few hundred feet...not even per say an 1/8 mile...why bother? and if cops see or passerbys drive by and report it..all it takes it is a few cops...to totally block off the lot...and give tickets/arrest everyone watching racing...my point was racing in a lot..to my opinion is pretty stupid...if you're gonna "race" go all out.
BEcuase cops are alot less likely to arrest everyon as no ones safeety was at risk, Id rather use a lot to practice launches, which is the hardest part of dragging then risking peoples lives being a complete retard.
Rice is street racing, take that shit to a track.
pdhaudio83
08-24-2003, 01:39 PM
thats the whole purpose of the tracks, keep the dangerous stuff off the street.
MP3skaterNC
08-24-2003, 02:11 PM
wow, parking lot racing. Thats pretty ghetto. If your going to do some stupid shit outside of a track (the best/only place you should run your car) do it on a deserted street, not a damn parking lot. Parking lots seem alot sketchier to me than a street. I've never seen a parking lot that didn't have something messed up about it, be it drains, uneven pavement, large planters.
White 6s
08-24-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by pdhaudio
thats the whole purpose of the tracks, keep the dangerous stuff off the street.
track or not..racing is racing...there's alot of cops who are "nice" and who are "assholes" we've all ran into the nice ones and ones who aren't so nice..jail is jail...crime is crime...run into a cop who isn't so forgiving...everyone here knows what i'm talking about. if you're risking anything might as well go the full...money involved or just for fun..racing is racing..if caught...fullest extent of the law...judge..cops don't care...same fine...same possible risk of getting car taken away/impounded everything is "equal" cuz racing=racing.
perfworks
08-24-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by MP3skaterNC
wow, parking lot racing. Thats pretty ghetto. If your going to do some stupid shit outside of a track (the best/only place you should run your car) do it on a deserted street, not a damn parking lot. Parking lots seem alot sketchier to me than a street. I've never seen a parking lot that didn't have something messed up about it, be it drains, uneven pavement, large planters.
there must be some shitty parking lots where you live;)
White 6s
08-24-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by perfworks
there must be some shitty parking lots where you live;)
that may be where he lives..where i live too...but cops are ALL the same throughout the US. :D
perfworks
08-24-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by White 6s
that may be where he lives..where i live too...but cops are ALL the same throughout the US. :D
yeah they all suck ass:D
i dont mean to be an ass to all cops its just TOOOO TOOO many of them are asholes and very few good guys left anymore.
power hungry losers
pdhaudio83
08-24-2003, 04:03 PM
its chicago, you could zoom zoom for about 15 feet before you hit a building :D
i love chi town.
acidbbg
08-24-2003, 09:37 PM
nice vids, some are kinda blurry
Yeah..The reason why they were in a parking lot...was b/c my camerawoman (My girlfriend) was recording and she is still getting used to my new digital camcorder..
fuzzy image, low fps, and in what looks like a k-mart/walmart parking lot.
Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner...It a huge parking lot..
It low fps..b/c i am on dialup..huge file to download...Need High Speed Internet..
damn you guys are ricey as hell...i've been streetracing for years...and never seen people stage races in a parking lot..usually chill til someone talks sh*t then drive off to a spot..but race in a lot. damn...how times are changing with the FnF crowd.
(upyours) (monkey) (bird)
Is all i got to say about that!
Are all 4 working?? It takes a long time to dowload!!
a big lot? whats wrong with big lots? FnF crowd? STREET racing is not only illegal, but HIGHLY dangerous. I dont see how you get Fnf crowd from lot racing, where in Fnf did they LOT race?
Ricey as hell? howso?
That's what i am thinking..I wanted video..and it's hard to have someone stand out in the side of the street (Back Roads..are always dark..and you won't get good video..the lot had plenty of lights..not to mention the cover of many trees!!
i was agreeing.
i dont see what the big deal is. is this shit with these losers going to continue here like on the other boards. fellow members talking shit about bullshit?
what the fuck is wrong with getting some races together.
at least they are not out there giving people heartattacks while on the road and putting the entire world in danger because some prick has a fucking hard on for another car.
you know whats rice? some idiot coming on and saying " ive been street racing for years" blah blah blah get over yourself and stop fucking with people to make yourself feel better about your insecurities
fuck im in a bad mood tonite
That's what i was saying before...I won't deal w/ bullshitters anymore..They will just get ignored...That's why that button is there!
I was agreeing to P!
Nick read my Smolten: A history thread, It will cheer you up.
I have lost patience for people only wanting to cause issues and talk smack.
My new phylosophy "If you have nothing useful to say, IAM CHASING YOU THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!"
(thumb) (laugh)
wow, parking lot racing. Thats pretty ghetto. If your going to do some stupid shit outside of a track (the best/only place you should run your car) do it on a deserted street, not a damn parking lot. Parking lots seem alot sketchier to me than a street. I've never seen a parking lot that didn't have something messed up about it, be it drains, uneven pavement, large planters.
*Note i recorded it in a parking lot..to get better pictures..due to lots of area lights!!
I won't race in a messed up lot...The lot was nice..and long..no bad drains or damaged area!
Cops Suck!
Chas:D
White 6s
08-24-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by acidbbg
Yeah..The reason why they were in a parking lot...was b/c my camerawoman (My girlfriend) was recording and she is still getting used to my new digital camcorder..
Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner...It a huge parking lot..
It low fps..b/c i am on dialup..huge file to download...Need High Speed Internet..
(upyours) (monkey) (bird)
Is all i got to say about that!
Are all 4 working?? It takes a long time to dowload!!
That's what i am thinking..I wanted video..and it's hard to have someone stand out in the side of the street (Back Roads..are always dark..and you won't get good video..the lot had plenty of lights..not to mention the cover of many trees!!
That's what i was saying before...I won't deal w/ bullshitters anymore..They will just get ignored...That's why that button is there!
(thumb) (laugh)
*Note i recorded it in a parking lot..to get better pictures..due to lots of area lights!!
I won't race in a messed up lot...The lot was nice..and long..no bad drains or damaged area!
Cops Suck!
Chas:D
uhh sure...likely story....riceR :D
edit: err likely stories (plural) perfect answer for everything..or it seems :D
pdhaudio83
08-24-2003, 09:41 PM
:)
acidbbg
08-24-2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by White 6s
uhh sure...likely story....riceR :D
edit: err likely stories (plural) perfect answer for everything..or it seems :D
(loser) ...If you don't like my post...don't read it..
Slow ass 6's...should be called slow ass 15's..LOL
White 6s
08-24-2003, 10:38 PM
wow..got "beef" with me...that's one thing..but to attack my car...that's another...how old are you? 16-17? maybe 18? shows the maturity level...wanna line up? bet u my 6 smokes you. not the fastest in the world but ran a low 15 on 18" rims too..prolly a few tenths quicker on stock rims. in fact i might be in NJ mid this week. heh
Originally posted by White 6s
uhh sure...likely story....riceR :D
edit: err likely stories (plural) perfect answer for everything..or it seems :D
QUiet you or I am going to get smolten back (no)
(rofl)
Originally posted by White 6s
wow..got "beef" with me...that's one thing..but to attack my car...that's another...how old are you? 16-17? maybe 18? shows the maturity level...wanna line up? bet u my 6 smokes you. not the fastest in the world but ran a low 15 on 18" rims too..prolly a few tenths quicker on stock rims. in fact i might be in NJ mid this week. heh
Learn to take a joke or don't go out of your way to start shit (thumb)
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