HID Lights for Canada? Yes or No?

[neomonkey]

While surfing on the mazda.ca site, I notived that there is absolutely no mention of HID lights whatsoever. Are there going to be any HID Lights coming to North America?

[dominoy2k1]

you mean stock i dont think so, doesnt the rx8 have some?

[alexlitov]

I think they going to have them as an option...

[sjdmp5]

When you check out Mazda.ca, it doesn't list them. Which really pisses me off, if they offer them in the U.S. they can easily offer them here. Think about this, Mazda didn't offer the JDM headlights in the U.S. but a lot of Americans ordered them from Canada. How many Canadians are going to order the H.I.D lights from the U.S. And who makes all the money from the sales of these parts? Mazda.

[OceanPark]

May I ask if leather seat is an option in Canada?

[dugrant153]

I think it is... (leather seats an option in Canada).
not sure which trim, though.

[neomonkey]

What about HID though? That would be an awesome feature to have!

[dugrant153]

Nothing stated for HIDs. don't see them in options either.

someone care to verify?

[cyc]

I guess it won't had HID, then. Because the jdm versin of p5 had hid, but they have it here.

[neomonkey]

It would be false advertising if HID was not a feature. All the pictures on the Mazda.ca site as well as mazdausa.com have obious HID lights in the headlight configurations. PLease do not false advertise Mazda!!! Let's hope for HID lights

[wongpres]

Originally posted by neomonkey
It would be false advertising if HID was not a feature. All the pictures on the Mazda.ca site as well as mazdausa.com have obious HID lights in the headlight configurations. PLease do not false advertise Mazda!!! Let's hope for HID lights

If we go by that theory, then almost ALL the Mazda3 pictures on both MazdaUSA and Mazda Canada is false advertising. The only N. American-spec Mazda3 picture released by Mazda is the titanium gray sedan with sport appearance package. All others are euro-spec, with one Japanese-spec.

Also, both MazdaUSA and Mazda Canada websites (well the Mazda Canada one got removed last week), both clearly say that the pictures shown are not the appropriate and that they were trying to put up as many pictures of the Mazda3 as possible.

Anyways, back to the topic of this thread, Canada won't be getting HID's. USA will have them as options (on the s trim sedan and the hatch).

[neomonkey]

That sucks. Is there anyway we can do a headlight conversion aftermarket?

[wongpres]

Originally posted by neomonkey
That sucks. Is there anyway we can do a headlight conversion aftermarket?

First off, in my previous post, I forgot to ask you to please fill in your location in your profile (this way we can give you local info).

Anyways, I'm assuming you're in Canada. I don't know how difficult it would be to order HID headlights from the US and fit them in. But I can tell you of one problem I see right off the bat. The Canadian DRL (daytime running light) on the Mazda3 will be the low-beam (which is the HID light). I'm pretty sure Canadian-law states that the DRL cannot be of the HID-type.

This is why I know a lot of the Canadian Mazda6 owners have had to disable their DRL when putting in HID kits (and from what I understand, disabling the DRL is not easy, the DRL functionality is integrated into one of the electrical boards). And obviously, disabling your DRL would make the vehicle illegal.

[alexlitov]

You guys have DRL? That must suck.

[neomonkey]

Originally posted by wongpres
First off, in my previous post, I forgot to ask you to please fill in your location in your profile (this way we can give you local info).

Anyways, I'm assuming you're in Canada. I don't know how difficult it would be to order HID headlights from the US and fit them in. But I can tell you of one problem I see right off the bat. The Canadian DRL (daytime running light) on the Mazda3 will be the low-beam (which is the HID light). I'm pretty sure Canadian-law states that the DRL cannot be of the HID-type.

This is why I know a lot of the Canadian Mazda6 owners have had to disable their DRL when putting in HID kits (and from what I understand, disabling the DRL is not easy, the DRL functionality is integrated into one of the electrical boards). And obviously, disabling your DRL would make the vehicle illegal.

Hye Wongpres, I would appreciate any info that you can give me locally. i'm in the market for a new car this year and I am interested in teh Mazda 3 do to the price and what you can get for the price. Isn't the Mazda 3 headlight configuration a separate bulb for HID and another one for DRL?? That sucks, I wish I could get the HIDS.

[wongpres]

Originally posted by neomonkey
Isn't the Mazda 3 headlight configuration a separate bulb for HID and another one for DRL??

No, the Mazda3 headlight assembly has 3 lights:

- high-beam. To be exact, there's also a very small parking-light at the top corner of the high-beam bezel (just like the Mazda6)
- low-beam
- amber parking/turn-signal light

DRL will run on the low-beam, which is the HID light.

[sjdmp5]

Anyways, I'm assuming you're in Canada. I don't know how difficult it would be to order HID headlights from the US and fit them in. But I can tell you of one problem I see right off the bat. The Canadian DRL (daytime running light) on the Mazda3 will be the low-beam (which is the HID light). I'm pretty sure Canadian-law states that the DRL cannot be of the HID-type.


Acura, BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, Nissan, Mini, Cadillac all seem to have no problem outfitting cars with DRL with H.I.D's.
I stand by my theory about Mazda trying to extract more money from enthusiasts.

[wongpres]

Originally posted by sjdmp5
Acura, BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, Nissan, Mini, Cadillac all seem to have no problem outfitting cars with DRL with H.I.D's.
I stand by my theory about Mazda trying to extract more money from enthusiasts.

I believe they use high-beams for their DRL, which is what the RX-8 does.

But my point is that since the Canadian-spec Mazda3's stock DRL's will be low-beam, you can't simply order the HID assembly from the US and still stay legal.

[neomonkey]

What about removing the high beam assembly and putting in the HIDs? That would be legal, wouldn't it?

[wongpres]

Originally posted by neomonkey
What about removing the high beam assembly and putting in the HIDs? That would be legal, wouldn't it?

Umm, the high-beam isn't the problem. Again, Mazda3 DRL will be on low-beam, and the HID is also the low-beam. So if you replace your stock low-beam with the HID low-beam your DRL will be HID, which is illegal (and it's also illegal to you disable your DRL).

I was just saying that for the cars with factory HID's (e.g. RX-8), the factory will normally put the DRL on the high-beam to avoid this problem and stay legal. But because the Canadian-spec Mazda3 doesn't come with factory HID's, the factory puts the DRL on the low-beam.

[sjdmp5]

You're right wongpres, it is illegal to disable the DRL's, so ordering the U.S. parts and installing them won't be legal.

However, the Mini Cooper uses it's HID's as DRL's and I'm pretty sure that I've seen BMW's do it as well. GM & Chrysler use orange parking lights as DRL's.

[323CiP5]

Actually, bmw's have halogen bulbs for their drls, and high beams. the hid's are a separate bulb.
It sucks that there is no hid option, and drls suck ass big time