How To: Electric Window Always On

[jrodhotrod]

This was copied from an email that "Kirbert" originally posted to the mazdaprotege5@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Group with his permission.

User a223818 posted it here originally, I just re-formated it and added pictures so they would be at the top of the thread... Originally posted here (http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36684) without pictures.

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From: "Kirbert"

Am I the only one that gets p*$$ed off when I shut off the engine and
then realize that I still need to open or close a window? Windows
that are only operable when the ignition is on perturb me. If I'm
the only one, the rest of you can delete this message without reading
any further.

Here is a step-by-step procedure for making the windows work whenever you push a button, regardless whether the ignition is on or not. It is reversible, so you can try it and then switch it back if you don't like it:

1) Disconnect the battery if you're that kinda guy. I'm not, didn't
disconnect it, dunno why bother with a job this simple.

2) Remove the plastic sill cover from the driver's door opening. This involves grabbing it and yanking straight up.
http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step1.jpg

3) Peel the door jam seal up for about six inches near the fuse
access door.
http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step2.jpg

4) Way back at the outboard corner of the footwell, remove one of
those buttons that are removed by carefully prying the center dot up.
http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step3.jpg

5) Remove the cover surrounding the fuses. After steps 2, 3, and 4, this involves a yank.
http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step4.jpg

6) I'd call the thing holding the fuses a "fuse box" but Mazda calls
it a "Joint Box" -- perhaps to distinguish it from the "Fuse Block"
which is in the engine compartment. Anyhow, there are several
connectors plugged into the back of the Joint Box; you need to unplug the one at the bottom, a connector designed for eight terminals in two rows of four but with only six terminals in it. You may choose to unbolt the Joint Box from the car (one Phillips screw and one 10mm bolt) to make this easier; I did.

http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step5.jpg

http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step6.jpg


7) By looking into the two unused slots in the plug, note how a
plastic tang inside retains each terminal. Then using a jeweller's
screwdriver or a toothpick or something similarly pointy, pop the R/W terminal out of its slot, move it over to the unused slot next to it, and snap it back in there. You might want to cut away some of the black tape around the wires to make this easier. Before you started, that row of four slots was

B/W - R/W - empty - empty

but after you're done it should be

B/W - empty - R/W - empty

http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step7.jpg

8) Plug the connector back into the Joint Box.

9) At the bottom right of the array of fuses in this Joint Box,
there is a large pink box-shaped 30A fuse for the power windows.
Just above it, there's an empty fuse slot for the same type fuse.
Pull this fuse, move it up to that empty slot, and plug it back in.
At this point, you can test your windows (if you didn't disconnect
the battery).

http://www.surfergeek.net/protege5/images/windowmod/step8.jpg

10) Slap it all back together.

11) On the back side of the fuse access door, use some white-out to indicate the moved fuse.

You're done. It took a LOT less time to do it than to write this up!

FYI, all the electricity in this car goes through three fuses. First
there is a 100A fuse in the fuse block under the hood that protects everything. Then there are several 40A and 60A fuses in that same fuse block that each protect some group of circuits. Then there are many smaller fuses in the Joint Box that protect individual circuits.

As should be apparent, the 30A fuse that protected the individual
power window circuit will continue to protect it, although from a
different slot. On the groups of circuits, the power window load has been taken off a 60A fuse in the fuse block labelled "IG KEY" and has been added to a 40A fuse labelled "BTN". This doesn't seem to pose a problem; in fact, as I reported a few days ago there's ANOTHER fuse labelled as being for power windows that actually does nothing, and that fuse was powered through the BTN 40A fuse. That may represent some earlier incarnation of power window wiring.

As an alternative idea, one could splice in another terminal on that
R/W wire and make it connect to both slots in that plug. With that
arrangement, you could decide whether you wanted the windows to workwith or without ignition by simply moving that fuse back and forth between the two slots. However, you'd need to remember not to plug fuses into BOTH slots at the same time, because that would allow power to backfeed from one to the other and you couldn't shut anything off.

Having the windows work without the ignition on isn't a security
issue, since you have to be INSIDE the car to push a button. I made this same mod to another car more than a decade ago, and my wife and I have found no downsides at all, it's just far more convenient.

BTW, the switch in the driver's armrest that disables the power
windows will still work because it breaks the ground circuit to the
windows.

-- Kirbert

[CruzinAltitude]

Very handy work, between the original Mod, the write up and the How To with pics I think this is a MUST do for me!

[PhreekPhive]

I'm bored, it's 1:30am. I'm on house watch until 5am cuz of all the fires in the area. I think I'm going to go try this right now. This looks toooooo easy.

[Reitrof]

Nice Job jrodhotrod.

It has to be the easiest mod I have done. Well Done Kirbert.

[JrTekSilverP5]

for some reason i cant get the R/W terminal out of its slot... is there a trick to this...

[Natey]

As much as I don't always agree with Kirbert, I've gotta give him credit. This mod rocks! :)

JrTek, use a toothpick or super-small screwdriver to push up on the little plastic tab inside the plug. I used a screwdriver in one end of the plug, while I pulled on the wire on the other end. After a little persuasion, it popped out!

[Cirielle]

Don't know if anyone would know this or not, but what if I wanted to modulate it to work with a remote??
Someone got an easy how to do on that too?????????

[JrTekSilverP5]

tru.... thanx natey.... ima go try it now...

[glyph]

thanks for the good how-to, I'll do this when I get home.

[JrTekSilverP5]

YAY!!!! it worked.... thats natey... and mr right up man...

[Bijou-MP5]

he he things to do this weekend!!! :D

[Midnight22]

first to do it from this forum :D lol, 2 nights ago

[cbcbd]

Awesome mod!! Thanks, took a second and is very useful!!

Genius!!:D

[Devilspawn]

I take that it doesn't affect the battery then. If not, maybe midnight can help me do it this weekend.

[Midnight22]

sure :D i can help ya with that :D just remind me to bring the tools i need, i need to make a pile in the corner of my room for stuff i need to bring...

[KYREDP5]

Just be warned. I did this mod yesterday, and this morning my bettery was completly dead. Wouldn't even turn over once.

That gave me a good excuse to go buy my new Optima Red Top though. :D

[Bijou-MP5]

Originally posted by KYREDP5
Just be warned. I did this mod yesterday, and this morning my bettery was completly dead. Wouldn't even turn over once.

That gave me a good excuse to go buy my new Optima Red Top though. :D

are you serious? and is optima red better then yellow?

[jrodhotrod]

Originally posted by KYREDP5
Just be warned. I did this mod yesterday, and this morning my bettery was completly dead. Wouldn't even turn over once.

That gave me a good excuse to go buy my new Optima Red Top though. :D

That's very strange...

I haven't had any problems with mine.

Maybe it was just time, I can't imagine that the light in the auto window thing draws any more current then the LED i have for my alarm.

[KYREDP5]

I dunno, my stock bettery was about used all to hell anyway.

The red-top is just as good as the yellow top for general purposes.

[Midnight22]

i've had the mod for a while, driven it, left it off, no problems yet, if people r really that worried about u have 2 choices... 1. dont do it at all. and 2. pull the fuse out everynight...

[323CiP5]

can someone measure the current draw?

[Midnight22]

good idea :) i dont have the tool to do it tho, srry :(

[PhreekPhive]

Originally posted by Bijou-MP5
are you serious? and is optima red better then yellow?

I was told that the red gives more power. But is used quicker. Once it's dead, it will only recharge to 90%. Then if it does it again, 80%. And so on. So if you like to sit in a parking lot without the engine running pulling huge amprage, then the red might not be for you. General purpose, good idea!

The yellow is the one I went for. A little less power, but my 2 Orion amps make up for that. Don't know if I need any more power... The yellow is more of a lithium ion state. Will discharge and recharge just fine with no memory or loss of capicity.

Just what I was told by an Optima sales guy. Don't know how true it is, but it sounds logical to me...

[therizzzo]

Originally posted by Midnightracer22
good idea :) i dont have the tool to do it tho, srry :(

a cheapo multimeter from Wal-mart will do the trick.

[Midnight22]

currently broke, all my money is going to spool

[njaremka]

Does this affect the moon-roof function? Do you know if you can do something similar for the moon-roof?

[erikvonb]

I just did this mod and it is very easy to do, but the 'auto' light is pissing me off.
Also, I'd be interested to know if someone has figured out how to get the moonroof working this way as well. (it's really the only window that i forget to close)

-Erik

[PhreekPhive]

I don't have a moon roof, but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do it in this same fashion.

[erikvonb]

Originally posted by PhreekPhive
I don't have a moon roof, but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do it in this same fashion.

I'm sure it can be done, but I don't know which wires have to be moved.

Anyone with a moonroof do this yet? Also, anyone figure out how to stop the 'auto' light on the driver's window switch from staying on? (other than taking apart the door and taking the bulb out)

-Erik

[glyph]

get a switch from a 99 es (like mine) as it doesn't have the auto light

[erikvonb]

Originally posted by glyph
get a switch from a 99 es (like mine) as it doesn't have the auto light

Good idea. But I guess it would be just as easy for me to get rid of the bulb instead of replacing the whole control.

Still looking for any ideas on how to get the moonroof working without the key in the ignition....anyone?

-Erik

[glyph]

I have a wiring diagram I bought on ebay, I'll take a look through this, as I am interested in the moonroof option as well.

[erikvonb]

Originally posted by glyph
I have a wiring diagram I bought on ebay, I'll take a look through this, as I am interested in the moonroof option as well.

That would be awsome if you could do that. Let us know if you figure anything out. I'm dying to get this done before it gets too cold to work on my car.

-Erik

[Natey]

Is your last name Von Bastian?:eek:

I have a friend named Eric Von B. that moved to Canada. (uhm) :)

[erikvonb]

Originally posted by Natey
Is your last name Von Bastian?:eek:

I have a friend named Eric Von B. that moved to Canada. (uhm) :)

nope. not me. but kinda cool that you know another von b

[Natey]

(drinks) Nice to meet ya anyway. That 151 trick in your Avatar is a goodie!:)

[PhreekPhive]

Originally posted by erikvonb
Also, anyone figure out how to stop the 'auto' light on the driver's window switch from staying on? (other than taking apart the door and taking the bulb out)

-Erik

I was thinking about this today at work. I thought maybe you could find the wire that powers the light and cut it, then put an ACC power source to it. But now that I think about my genius, it's not so great. Out of all the wires in that harness, H and F are the main ones. I believe one is power and one is ground. I'm sure this is how the light gets power. Problem, you need both H and F for the windows to work. Finding which one is power and hooking it to an ACC source would then make the windows to only work when the key is in ACC, which is better than stock. I've now had this little mod for over a week. No problems. Even with my alarm lights and cap in the back.

[glyph]

soon i'll post the pages from the wiring diagram that apply
eventually i'll make a pdf of the whole thing. of course, mine is for a 99 protege

[grishulia]

Thanks.

Great and useful mod and a great write up. Took a whole 10 minutes to do.

[Midnight22]

if peeps dun want to do it, i will, long as ur at whatever meet i am at, itz easy, but i'll do it if u dont want to mess with ur car, i have 7 cars done so far and no probs reported

[Moeed]

So, has anyone been able to do this with the moonroof.
That would be the coolest thing.
:confused:

Moeed

[Minus]

i just did this, pretty easy, but for me a tooth pick didnt work. it just broke off in there making it harder to do.

[Shadow]

Anyone else have a battery problem after doing this?

[Minus]

nope. my car sat for almost a week, i came home, cranked it right up

[jrodhotrod]

Haven't had a problem here since I did it. :D

[erikvonb]

anyone figure out how to get the moonroof done yet?

[glyph]

I studied it for quite a while in the wiring diagram, but couldn't figure it out. Things have been so crazy here lately, I have hardly posted here at all. I don't think I will have a chance to look at it before I deploy for 90 days, either. Sorry!

[scott42]

I've had it for about 2months now and no problems in the cold weather and sitting for days at a time.
(yes)

[Reitrof]

I did mine at least 2 months ago and no issues with starting.

[SirJaime]

Gzzzzz , we need this to work with out the light AND the wondow lock doesn't lock the window now

[duMb KeoLa]

mine still locks the windows and no battery issues yet

[WRCprotege]

ya i noticed the light stays on, on the auto window button. i asked a friend of mine that is an electrical engineer to look at it, he did some test with an volt meter and something else, and said it was an led type light -electrod? if i spelled that right?? anyway he says it doest draw shit for power and will take a year to drain a full charged battery.. iv had no problems yet..:)

[Reitrof]

Had my car outside in 0F weather for the past week. No issues starting.

[tintorMP5]

Thanks alot, this was very easy and took about 15mins

[iLisa]

we've had several days/nights of below freezing weather and I didn't start it for several days.. when I eventually did, it started without hesitation. :)

[goku4658]

so overall, this is a success i take it

[Reitrof]

Yes

[DragonSpeed]

just now tried it on mine, but that r/w terminal was no joke to get out, u gotta be kidding me with a toothpick, i used a small flat head screwdriver and pulled hard as i could from the other end, finally i used the screwdriver to pry it out at an angle and it finally came out.
hope i dont wake up in the morning to a dead battery :O

good work on the instructions btw, very helpful.

[Naveed74]

I did this over the weekend, and it works great.

The toothpick idea is not an option on backing out that wire.

Any concern regarding the led for the 'auto' window light and the draw on your battery - if you have an alarm installed, do you worry about the led on your dash drawing too much power? That would be the equivalent.

My car has been starting fine with this done. Its easy enough to reverse too...

Good job on the instructions too!
:D

[johnsharpe]

The LED probably draws no more than 15mA, that's 0.015A. By comparison, the interior lights probably total ~30W, maybe less (I don't have my svce man here). But that's closer to 2.3A @ 13V. (P=V*I >> P/V=I >> 30/13=2.30769).

If the numbers are correct, you'd have to leave this modification sitting for 158 days without starting your car to equal that of leaving the interior lights on for 1 day. (somebody check my math on this...)

The point is, if you can leave your interior lights on all night and still be able to start your car in the morning, then this mod should not hurt the battery.

[RobMP5]

This is a really great post. One thing I have noticed is that when you press the window lock button, the driver can only control their window. Does anybody think there is a way to rig it so the driver can have total control over all the windows while locking everyone else out?

[ZapWizard]

Thanks for the guide! I just completed this mod:I have some pictures on my site, they may help someone.
http://www.zapwizard.com/Car/windows/Index.html

Took about 15 minutes.

/edit, NM, the moonroof is not working when the car is off.
Hmm, I got to locate the fuse for that circuit.

[ZapWizard]

I have figured out that the moonroof is on the 15Amp, A/C fuse. (Go figure???)

I need to take the fuse box off, and see if there is a seperate wire back there for the moonroof, mabye it could be moved over to the power window circuit?
(Or on it's own 15-amps fuse?)

But it is dark here now.

[ZapWizard]

(I know this is my third post in a row, but it's another day, so bump...)

anyone figure out how to get the moonroof done yet?Ok, folks I work on this for hours today.
This is what I got:
There is a pink wire at the very top right of the topmost connector on the fuse box.
When I disconnect this wire the moonroof no-longer works.
If this wire is connected to battery power when the car is off, the moonroof is able to open without the car being on.

But, the rear defrost relay is also connected to this same pink wire.
Which means the rear defroster is running off battery power.

The defroster relay is connected directly to the top of the fusebox.
And you can remove the pink wire from it. (And isolate it)
This then could be tapped into a fused keyed-on power source.

You then have to remove the pink wire from the fuse box connector, and tap that (with a fuse) onto a battery power source.

My only thing is that I wonder if there are anyother circuits on this pink wire, that may drain the battery if I tap it.

But I think I will go ahead and try, I am off to the store to get some fuse holders and wire taps.

[Togan]

I'm bored, it's 1:30am. I'm on house watch until 5am cuz of all the fires in the area. I think I'm going to go try this right now. This looks toooooo easy.
lol are u sure it looks too easy? (huh) (confused)

[ZapWizard]

anyone figure out how to get the moonroof done yet?Ok, all I needed was some time to figure it out, but here is the full guide on modding the moonroof:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55532
-Or-
http://www.zapwizard.com/Car/moonroof/

[Poseur]

Hey, So while Finding a spot to tuck away some relays so this can be alarm-controlled, I was just sitting in my car with it off at night and I too realized that with my windows wired for constant-on, the "auto" light inside of the driver's window switch is currently on at all times (makes sense) I guess if anyone were really concerned about it, they could dig in and put a relay on the light itself which may require running another wire into the door. (check the audio section for my sticky on running wires through the molex plug)

Also while thinking about this a bit more from a paranoia standpoint. Make sure you NEVER leave your windows "cracked" while wired like this. Makes it all too easy to coat-hanger inside and push the button down. All that said, I'm happy to have done this, and happier still that it's been written-up all nicely for us. Thanks to Zap as well for the moonroof mod.

[luvmyprotege5]

Very nice mod. very conveniant for me since i always forget to roll up my widows until I am about to close my door. This way I don't have to sit back down, put the key in, turn it on, then take the key out and get out, AGAIN!! It happened like 2 days after doing the mod and I was so happy I didn't have to get back in the car and go through all that just to roll up the window.

[disdorkching]

i tried this out yesterday but inside the fuse box where theres instructions on

B/W - R/W - empty - empty

but after you're done it should be

B/W - empty - R/W - empty

mines was
emoty- empty- B/W - R/W

im sure i iddnt flip the harness over cus i saw the top clip in the picture and matched it up...n wahts the "B" in B/W stand for? same with the R/W

[racingbeat702]

The LED probably draws no more than 15mA, that's 0.015A. By comparison, the interior lights probably total ~30W, maybe less (I don't have my svce man here). But that's closer to 2.3A @ 13V. (P=V*I >> P/V=I >> 30/13=2.30769).

If the numbers are correct, you'd have to leave this modification sitting for 158 days without starting your car to equal that of leaving the interior lights on for 1 day. (somebody check my math on this...)

The point is, if you can leave your interior lights on all night and still be able to start your car in the morning, then this mod should not hurt the battery.

How long do you think the bulb on the switch "AUTO" would last since it's ON all the time????? LMK, thanks!

[ZapWizard]

How long do you think the bulb on the switch "AUTO" would last since it's ON all the time????? LMK, thanks!
It is an LED (Light emitting diode), so it will last longer then the car, even when on all the time.

[Togan]

hey thx this might be useful

[ES2k3]

I confirm this work on a Protege ES 2003. Nice & Easy trick yout got, man.... I noticed the 'Auto' led on the driver's button stay on now. Even when the car is completely off. Just like the green light right above the ignition key... I guess this is not a problem at all since these leds use so low energy that it will take well over a year to drain the batt, if you don't drive the car at all. Good work man!

[ES2k3]

im sure i iddnt flip the harness over cus i saw the top clip in the picture and matched it up...n wahts the "B" in B/W stand for? same with the R/W


B/W stand for Blue Wire. R/W stand for Red Wire.... In other words, you need to relocate the red wire in the next slot.

[chuck]

I plan on doing this but add a switch so I can disconnect when I am parking somewhere I don't trust.

[Minus]

why add a switch? why not just roll your windows up... its not like everyone is going to know that you can roll your windows up and down without a key

[chuck]

why add a switch? why not just roll your windows up... its not like everyone is going to know that you can roll your windows up and down without a key
So I have the option to disconnect windows if in that parking lot I feel paranoid. Just if I feel feel paranoid. It's not if I am going to do it all the time.

[Minus]

i dont understand what good this is going to do if your windows are rolled up

[chuck]

I measured the current it is 7mA.

That is 100 times less than rear deck light which is 750mA. 10W.
That is 100 times less that dome light which is 750mA. 10W

[holokaustos]

Ok, all I needed was some time to figure it out...

Zap, all you ever need is some time! (lol) Window mod worked and now I've got me my new weekend/weeknight one! Kuh-ool!

Man, I've been watching your computer mods for a long time now and was absolutely ecstatic when I came across your posts in the Mazda forums! Keep up the great work. And if anyone needs to see how to mod out a computer with extreme skill, then just check out www.zapwizard.com. You'll be blown away... (bowdown) Later!

[ZapWizard]

Thanks holokaustos.

I got about three more (car) mods lined up that I will post next month.

[crazyplatypus]

Has anyone tried this mod with a Mazda 3 yet? I haven't looked into it, just wondering if there are any major differences in the instructions. I plan on trying it this weekend.

Thanks!

[holokaustos]

I got about three more (car) mods lined up that I will post next month.

(cool) I hope that one of them is that water sensor for the moonroof!

[ZapWizard]

(cool) I hope that one of them is that water sensor for the moonroof!Yep.

[holokaustos]

Yep.

Sweet! *rocked with anticipation* (headbang)

[chuck]

Thats the one I AM WAITING FOR!!
(thumb)

[Midnight22]

lol, i'd like that one too...

[ZapWizard]

Well I am working on a tempature/rain/motion controlled circuit that hopefully will be semi-commericaly made.

But just a rain sensor is fairly easy, would you guys want a guide just for rain?

[holokaustos]

But just a rain sensor is fairly easy, would you guys want a guide just for rain?

Considering all that you've got going on, man, that would be more than enough... (And I'm thinking that Mrs. Zap might agree as well! (yes) )

[Bijou-MP5]

I forgot to do this mod...I will do it this weekend for sure

[goodweather]

thkz for the how-to... it worked really well...
however when i tried to turn on my wipers..
the wiper didn't work?~
any thoughts?~
its not a blown fuse..
i reversed the mod... then do the mod again...
switched fuse... it worked for a minute..
afta awhile... i try it again.
it didn't work~~
anyone else experience this?

[ZapWizard]

The only thing I could think of is that another wire got loose.

Mabye check the wires coming out of the wiper fuse on the control box.

[goodweather]

alright...
but um... which wire is the one~?
and it worked for few times afta i reversed and did the mod again...

[Minus]

wipers.... what?

[goodweather]

yah..
the wire for the wipers...

[goodweather]

any help????

[90210brandon]

Worked well Zap. THanks man! I'll try the 'always on Moonroof' next week.(pullup)

[wannabe]

sounds like a cool idea

anybody have any more battery issues than the couple initially? thats the only thing i'd be afraid of...

[ZapWizard]

sounds like a cool idea

anybody have any more battery issues than the couple initially? thats the only thing i'd be afraid of...
I have had mine, and my parents car modded for months now with no problems.
The longest my car has sat unstarted is about a week.

[Minus]

my cars battery life blows ass anyways. i leave my stereo on for 15-20 minutes at about 18 on the kenwood cd player and the battery goes dead. it really sucks ass. anyone know wtf i can do about this? new battery? new altenator? i donno what to do....

[wannabe]

optima would probably be better for you...i never really run anythign with the just the battery, but one time i was working, had the cd player going, fiddling with the subs, took about 30 minutes, at the end, car wouldnt start...but i left it overnight, and in the morning roared right up...

[MSP#735]

ok, this "lite" that you guys speak of.......what is it and where is it? im a definately clueless......id try and find it but its day lite out kinda hard to see this lite if its not dark....anyone?

[90210brandon]

The light is the 'AUTO' light on the window button. That is all. (shrug)

[ZapWizard]

ok, this "lite" that you guys speak of.......what is it and where is it? im a definately clueless......id try and find it but its day lite out kinda hard to see this lite if its not dark....anyone?
http://www.zapwizard.com/Car/windows/rewire/auto.jpg

That little LED runs on about 20mA (or less)
It would take years to drain a car battery.

[loccusst]

Don't worry about the light just do the mod...I did it along with the fog light mod in 10 min tops. Thanks for the how to's Zap. Now I would like to get my windows to roll up automaticaly without spending the money for the moduals that work with my alarm. I have to get multiple moduals and I would rather try to find a cheap way. What can I say I am cheap. For those of you worried about some one breaking in because of this just hit the window lock button. The driver window is now the only one with power.

[Getting2knowMaz]

Okay, this mod is cool and all... but does anyone know if it works with a Mazda 3?

[glyph]

Something like it, you just have to get the wiring diagram to figure out where to do it and with what wires.

[Pmpkinhead]

I'm going to do this today(nana)

367 (mp3yellow

[Getting2knowMaz]

I'm going to do this today(nana)

367 (mp3yellow

Sweet yo, what kind of car do you have?

[Pmpkinhead]

I have an 03.5 Blazin' Yellow MSP. I did the mod (10 minutes tops - easy!) and I have a suggestion for the single wire removal. Some people post about pulling on the wire. Instead, gently lift the plastic tab straight up with a medium size jewelers screwdriver (stright blade, not phillips), then pull gently back on the wire. The terminal will slip right out when you lift the tiny tab between the female terminal curls. The screwdriver enters on the opposite side of the large plastic connector relative to the wire.

367 (mp3yellow

[Getting2knowMaz]

I have an 03.5 Blazin' Yellow MSP. I did the mod (10 minutes tops - easy!) and I have a suggestion for the single wire removal. Some people post about pulling on the wire. Instead, gently lift the plastic tab straight up with a medium size jewelers screwdriver (stright blade, not phillips), then pull gently back on the wire. The terminal will slip right out when you lift the tiny tab between the female terminal curls. The screwdriver enters on the opposite side of the large plastic connector relative to the wire.

367 (mp3yellow

Cool and congrats! Do you have a Protege? I attempted to do this mod to my 05 Mazda 3s, but I couldn't because the fuse box and wires are all different.

[Pmpkinhead]

Cool and congrats! Do you have a Protege? I attempted to do this mod to my 05 Mazda 3s, but I couldn't because the fuse box and wires are all different.

MSP = Protege(drive)

[wannabe]

where in cleveland you at?

[InFlames]

Is anyone running amps with this mod? Cause I have mine hooked up to accessory so when i turn the car on it fires up the amp. Anyone have any ideas on how to run this window setup without having the amp on all the time, It drained my battery completely in one day :(

[glyph]

Is anyone running amps with this mod? Cause I have mine hooked up to accessory so when i turn the car on it fires up the amp. Anyone have any ideas on how to run this window setup without having the amp on all the time, It drained my battery completely in one day :(
I am, my amp is run directly to the battery and also turns on when the key is in ACC (accessory). I have the windows hooked up according to this, and they work when the key is out. No problems for me.

It sounds like your amps may be hooked up incorrectly, or your windows are hooked up incorrectly.

[InFlames]

I do have my amp hooked up directly to the battery, what is your remote wire hooked up to?

[glyph]

the accessory power (positive) under the steering column

[InFlames]

the accessory power (positive) under the steering column

I rewired my amp remote to the radio fuse accessory. Thanks http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/viscous/bigthumb.gif

[silverspeed03]

This mod rocks, super easy to do, took like 15min.. everything works fine for now, will keep everyone updated that wants to know. Awsome, Awsome, Awsome!!!!!!!

[keleko]

404 on teh pics in the 1st post - anyone wanna rehost?

[silverspeed03]

everything works great still.

[masda]

anyone have this write up again with pictures ?

[DeadAir]

Heya--

I did this mod on my P5, and my wife got a 2006 MPV and wants the same thing done for her windows.

I found a wiring diagram for the power window circuit, but I have no clue what I'm looking at.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Joe

[ELUSIVEP5]

Thanks did it soon as I finished reading this thread works just fine

[P5inMD]

does anyone have pics for this? the pics I guess have been deleted from the original server

[glyph]

go here for pics of someone who followed the mod (also several other good mods):
http://www.zapwizard.com/Car/windows/Index.html

http://www.zapwizard.com to navigate to Projects, Protege, Completed Mods

[verbal]

I really want to do this, but there aren't many 08's in this topic. Anyone do this on an 08? What exactly stays on all the time?

Instead of having the windows on all the time, there HAS to be a way to wire it so they're only on when accessory is on. Anyone know how?

[glyph]

I really want to do this, but there aren't many 08's in this topic. Anyone do this on an 08? What exactly stays on all the time?

Instead of having the windows on all the time, there HAS to be a way to wire it so they're only on when accessory is on. Anyone know how?

an 08 what? This is VERY specific to the Protege, as any other car or generation of Protege has a completely different wiring setup.

[kboutsider]

Did this a couple of days ago. Just noticed this last night. It's not a big side effect and it may only be specific to me but the light in the "AUTO" window switch stays on.

[Pmpkinhead]

Did this a couple of days ago. Just noticed this last night. It's not a big side effect and it may only be specific to me but the light in the "AUTO" window switch stays on.

You are correct sir.

[kboutsider]

not much of an issue with me but just wanted to throw it out there as some doing this might not be keen on it.

[90210brandon]

not much of an issue with me but just wanted to throw it out there as some doing this might not be keen on it.
That's not a side affect. That's what happens. It's a slow trickle off the battery. It doesn't affect anything. I have had mine this way for years and the battery is fine.

[south9border]

I know the original post is going on 7 years old but pics would be lovelyyy haha thanks guys

[glyph]

check the link I posted above at www.zapwizard.com

[south9border]

check the link I posted above at www.zapwizard.com

Thanks glyph, i don't know how I didn't see that there before

[glyph]

no worries. I used that site extensively for those projects :). He's pretty responsive about helpful emails.

[south9border]

YES mod #2 is officially complete haha this is a big deal for me

[glyph]

congrats! I just moved out of State College, PA. Which reminds me, I need to change my profile...

[hornsfan10609]

This was the first mod done to my 2002.0 Pro5. I just did it and it took less than 10 mins. Next is to clean the EGR and turn off the door chime. Then throw a H/U in.

[MarvinM02]

Did it . Love it. wish i'd noticed this one earlier. btw if i can anyone can.

02 p5 midnight blue.

[HKPRO5]

This mod is awesome!

[vampyrate]

this thread is so old there are no pics :( im a visual learner, not just the kind of person that reads and gets it (though i was an english major in college... go figure lol)

[glyph]

check out the zapwizard.com site, and navigate to the protege mods, he describes them there, too; go to projects, car modding

[klieu]

This is a good modify :) :)

[glyph]

I know, it's awesome. I make use of it all the time and wish all our vehicles had it.

[bullshark524]

i did this about a week ago and love it because now i dont get mad at my friends for being stupid. before they would wait till the last minute to roll up the windows and by then i shut the car off and was getting out. so i would have to put the key back in and turn the car on. it was just annoying. now it doesnt matter if my friends are stupid

[glyph]

now it doesnt matter if my friends are stupid

at least not to your windows... :D

[vampyrate]

This mod came in handy over the weekend when at a wedding. It was 90+ and an outdoor wedding and yeah that's all I'll say about that