How To: Rewire Fogs For Always On

[enry]

Here are the instuctions we have found. If someone has better instructions, private message one of the mods with the newer, better instructions.

Pull off the side panel of the drivers dash (between the dash and the door), it's just clips and pulls directly off. You'll access the wiring behind the fog light switch here. Look up under the dash, above where your left foot sits. There's four electronic boxes, the smallest (Black) one is the fogs relay. Feel it click as you turn the fogs on and off from the switch. Find the red wire going into the relay, and cut it. Connect a piece of wire to the red wire going into the relay, and run it up to the fog switch. Insulate the other end (no short circuits here). At the fog switch, tap that new wire into the light green/black wire, and you're done. Now the fogs come on with parking lights and headlights. They'll still shut off with high beams, though. I'm still working on that solution.

[sttl013]

Hey that's my post dammit!! Copywrite infringemint!!
Actually, just kidding. Glad I could help.

[311Mazda]

STTL013: Hey I remember that post when it first came out, did you ever find a way to keep the fogs on with the high beams? Mabye they don't want you to because haveing all the lights on at the same time would be too much of a drain on our (weak, at least in my experience) alternator.

[NYCZMP3]

hold on....quick questions for some people who did this mod...A) when u cut the red wire u connect a wire to the wire goin into the relay----not coming out...correct?

B) what is meant when u say "TAP" that wire to the grn/blk wire goin to fogs?????.....how that hell do u tap into the wire....anyone know....

[311Mazda]

Originally posted by NYCZMP3
hold on....quick questions for some people who did this mod...A) when u cut the red wire u connect a wire to the wire goin into the relay----not coming out...correct?

B) what is meant when u say "TAP" that wire to the grn/blk wire goin to fogs?????.....how that hell do u tap into the wire....anyone know....

I'm pretty sure to tap a wire means to bare it (to the metal) and "Tap" another wire to it meaning you have another bare wire and attach it to the exposed part of the other, be that just wraping it around it or sodering it or whatever....I think. :)

[derrick1623]

to 'tap' into the wire.use a splicer(found at radio shack)

[1sty]

Originally posted by derrick1623
to 'tap' into the wire.use a splicer(found at radio shack)

god NOOOOOOO! strip some of the wire, use a pick to seperate the copper strands into 2 sides then strip the wire you want to connect insert that end through the loop formed by the other wire then wrap it around tight and tape it with super 33 tape, other then soilder and shrink wrap this is the best possible way to connect wires.

[311Mazda]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH


god NOOOOOOO! strip some of the wire, use a pick to seperate the copper strands into 2 sides then strip the wire you want to connect insert that end through the loop formed by the other wire then wrap it around tight and tape it with super 33 tape, other then soilder and shrink wrap this is the best possible way to connect wires.

Yeah, what I said. :D

[NYCZMP3]

ok...i took tap as splice and i cut the wire....i hooked it up and it didnt work...i put the wires back (pure ghetto rig)..and tey work...is there any way u think i can get this to work like it should with a cut wire?

[djstan]

hey guys, having the fogs come on with the running lights and whatnot is fine, but here's what i've always wanted to do...

1- Fogs on and and yellow indicator lights on only. no DRL's!

so really the questions is a two parter:

1- how do i disable the DRL's completely?
2- how do i operate the fog lights as i wish regardless of what lights are enabled? (how can i run the fog's whenever i want)

hope someone knows!

[strider]

Has anyone done this on a Canadian Car with DTRL? I tried on my P5 this weekend and the net affect is exactly the same. The fogs act the same as they did before I re-wired them.

David

[AwaKeN]

Originally posted by strider
Has anyone done this on a Canadian Car with DTRL? I tried on my P5 this weekend and the net affect is exactly the same. The fogs act the same as they did before I re-wired them.

David

I have tried it too and it's not working .. I have a Canadian P5

Anyone can help us to re-wire the fogs so that they will work with daylights ?

Dave

[jroof]

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Pull off the side panel of the drivers dash (between the dash and the door), it's just clips and pulls directly off. You'll access the wiring behind the fog light switch here. Look up under the dash, above where your left foot sits. There's four electronic boxes, the smallest (Black) one is the fogs relay. Feel it click as you turn the fogs on and off from the switch. Find the red wire going into the relay, and cut it. Connect a piece of wire to the red wire going into the relay, and run it up to the fog switch. Insulate the other end (no short circuits here). At the fog switch, tap that new wire into the light green/black wire, and you're done. Now the fogs come on with parking lights and headlights. They'll still shut off with high beams, though. I'm still working on that solution.
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Can anyone post pictures of this. I feel like the directions aren't all that clear. I just can't decipher which section of the cut wire goes where. Thanks.

[LinuxRacr]

Go to ProtegeClub, and do a search. I think TheMan had some good instructions.

[jroof]

Linux,
Thanks, I'll be able to figure it out among all the sources. Out of curiousity, do you know if the fog lights will always come on when the parking lights come on or can do you still have switch control over them. It doesn't seem like you would. For example, I did a similar mod to my Probe but once the parking lights are on, I still have the option to have the fogs on or off. Thanks in advance.

[LinuxRacr]

Not sure, haven't done it yet.

[AwaKeN]

Originally posted by jroof
Linux,
Thanks, I'll be able to figure it out among all the sources. Out of curiousity, do you know if the fog lights will always come on when the parking lights come on or can do you still have switch control over them. It doesn't seem like you would. For example, I did a similar mod to my Probe but once the parking lights are on, I still have the option to have the fogs on or off. Thanks in advance.

The fog mod ONLY work with US P5, anyone have found how to mod the fogs with Canadian P5.

Dave

[custompr5]

you need to reconnect to a constant, to keep the foglights on whenever you want, by disconnecting the trigger to the parking lights..havent tried it yet but will let you know as soon as i do it..tommorrow or the next..pm if u have any others inquiries..

[AwaKeN]

With a U.S. Protege 5 no problems, but with a Canadian Protege 5 you can't do this mod

[ArkosP5]

Does anyone know what the red wire is? (excuse my terms, I'm not very familiar with auto relays), but is it the high feed, or the low feed? And are you just tapping them into a parking light feed?

[JrTekSilverP5]

does anyone have INSTRUCTIONS W/PICTURES!!!!

[MikeBlueP5]

BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS: I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS, EVEN IF RESULTING IN INJURY TO YOU OR TO YOUR CAR, SO PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THESE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THEM CLEARLY BEFORE BEGINNING, PLEASE I WOULD HATE FOR YOU TO MESS UP YOUR EXPENSIVE TOY! ALSO GET THE CORRECT PARTS/TOOLS, BELOW IS A SUPPLY/TOOL LIST:
1)Small, very small flat blade screw driver, or equivalent
2)wire cutters/crimpers
3)electrical tape
4)female and male spade connectors 16-18 gauge size, small/narrow and big/wide ones. check your parts stores. you will see what size later in the instructions when you remove the wires from the harnesses.
5)approx 15-20" of wire preferably 16-18 gauge
6)Possibly a pair of needle nose pliers for removing/installing the wires in the harnesses.
7)approx. 45-60 minutes for a good clean install.(trust me it pays off in the end with the look of the lights and the much better quality job, rather than cutting up the wires of your baby)



ok guys i have done this mod and i will tell you how to do it cleanly and easily and can be reversed in a matter of minutes. All you are doing is replacing the turn on wire for the relay, instead of getting power from your headlight power you are getting it from the illumination power for the gauge lights (im assuming) although that doesnt matter as long as the relay gets the voltage to open and turn on the lights.
Ok with that said, here is how i did it:

1)Open the drivers door and remove the panel on the side of the dash, it helps to reach under the dash and push out on it, on the part closer to the driver (not the door hinge side, it slips in the groove).
2)Locate the relay-its under the dash by the clutch pedal, there should be like 3-4 small black boxes, locate the one for the fog lights by turning them on and off while listening closely/and or feeling. I had to listen and feel as all the relays look the same.(Small black boxes for those who dont know).
3)locate the back of the foglight switch.
4)start by removing the harness from the relay and the foglight switch.
5)on the harness removed from the relay start by using a very small flat head (blade) screwdriver or equivalent, remove the (Red, larger wire) wire, by pushing on the small metal clip inside the harness, look closely and you will see how it is held in there, its not as difficult as it sounds, i promise.
6) Using the same procedure as above (5) do the same in removing the (green/black) wire from the harness that plugs into the foglight switch.
7)once both are removed this is where the fun begins, start with a short peice of wire, approx 8-10" long. On one end crimp on a female spade connector, this will be inserted back into the harness going to the relay, where you removed the wire in step 5.
8) tape the end of the wire removed in step 5 so no shorting occurs , also tape it to another loom under the dash so it doesnt dangle.
9)ok pay attention here, on the other end of the wire in step 7 attatch another short peice of wire approx 5" long by twisting them together, crimp them together with another female spade connecter.
10) on the other end of the short wire in step 9, crimp on a male spade connector.
11)ok now the connecting wire should be complete, take the remaining female connecter and put it back in the foglight harness where you removed the one in step 6(green/black wire).
12) this should leave you with the wire you removed from the foglight switch in step 6 (green/black) and a short piece of wire with a male spade on it (created in step 9).
13) the wire removed from the foglight switch in step 6 should have a female spade on it, take the male spade on the short wire that you created in step 9, and plug it into the female spade removed from the foglight switch in step 6, (the green/black) wire.
14) tape all remaining exposed connections (should only have one) and voila you are done, the fogs come on with the parking lights and with the headlights and the fog swith is still functional.

ATTENTION !!!- I made a typo in the little graphic, on the very bottom right caption where it says "you removed the red wire, and the green and black wires" it should be " you removed the red wire and the green/black wires, as in the red wire from the relay harness and the green&black<--- (1) wire from the fog switch. And also try and find the appropriate size spade connectors, as they have smaller and larger ones-narrow and wide, so pull em out and see what you need before beginning.


I will attach an image of the jumper wire i created, this will be a paint image not a actual image of mine, it is 1:00 am here, youre lucky you are reading this!
If any more detailed info is needed(it shouldnt be) then shoot me an email.
Mikehttp://www.mazdamp3.com/members/MikeBlueP5/foglight%20stuff/fog%20light%20rewire.jpg

[JrTekSilverP5]

here ya go

[MikeBlueP5]

did you cut and tap the wires or do it the way i described?

[bcbadboy]

Here is Mine

[JrTekSilverP5]

i CLEANLY cut and tapped... but ur way is good too!

[MikeBlueP5]

i just did mine the way i did for the reason of not cutting and being able to return it to factory very easily, but either method could be returned to factory easily now that i think of it, all you would have to do is crimp a new female spade on the red relay wire and put it back into the harness and undo the tap on the green/black wire, so whatever method they all work, i just wanted cleanliness, as i plan to add an alarm here in the near future, and i didnt want excess wiring in the way.
Mike

[Aaron]

will this work for a MAZDASPEED???

[JrTekSilverP5]

yeah it should... if done exactly the right way

[good0177]

Mike, you are awsome!!!!! I just did the fog light mod on my P5. Worked like a charm. Your instructs were a great help. I had to run back to the car store twice because I just could not find the right size female spade connector! That was the only thing that sucked, took like 2 hours to do. Dumb spade connectors. Your end was tight. I followed the instructs word for word and it came out flawless and looks great. I love the fact that I can restore to OEM whenever I want (hmmm...did somebody say warranty?). Thanks Mike and if you do other mods post them just like this one and I will be sure to do it. Peace out.

[MikeBlueP5]

hey, glad i could help!! thats what i wrote it for. Yeah i had a problem with the female spades too, i think i might have ended up trimming them to make them narrower so they would fit in there.

[rednecks_r_us]

Mikebluep5,

I followed your plan and it works great for the fogs to be on with the parking lights or low beams.

Has anybody figured out how to keep fogs on with the high beams?

Later,

Bill

(laserp5)

[MikeBlueP5]

nope not yet, that i know of. I might crawl back under the dash and search for the wire that causes this to happen. I might wait until i get my alarm before i do it though. I will keep you guys updated if i figure it out.
Mike

[rednecks_r_us]

I found a way to get all the lights to stay on but it by-passes the fog light switch.

If you follow mikebluep5's plan then you can make a jumper wire to connect the circuits in the switch, but it doesn't allow the use of the switch any more.

If you remove the side panel on the dash and remove the fog light swich you can see four wires go into it. One being the new red wire from Mikes plan or the stock black/green.

If you hold the switch so that the new red wire is on the lower left of the four wires then you can connect the lower right wire to the upper left wire while still attached to the fog light switch.

X X
\
R X

I am not going to do this method because I don't know what it'll do to the electrical system.

Mikes method works except the fogs go off if you turn on the high beams. The fogs will also go off if you have the parking lights on but you move the lever foward to the high beam position.

There is something between the relay, the fogs and the high beams that is causing the fogs to turn off. I will find it.

The front of the car looks AWESOME with all 6 lights on!

Later,

Bill

[NVMY03GT]

Can someone post the link on where the pictures are of doing the fog light switch. Someone mentioned Protegeclub, but Im not sure where they are?

Can someone post a link that points me to the right place?

[NVMY03GT]

Anyone have Digital Pics on this yet?

[Natey]

We had a foglight party today. :)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p8bfd821cca45f3dd724ff239fae47bea/fbd3f700.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p9e07e5be412263ce51cbb4387bb4446b/fbd3f898.jpg

[djstan]

Originally posted by eggynatey
We had a foglight party today. :)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p8bfd821cca45f3dd724ff239fae47bea/fbd3f700.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p9e07e5be412263ce51cbb4387bb4446b/fbd3f898.jpg

Hey eggynatey,

It looks like all those cards have their side markers and fogs only. How did you guys do it?! Did you use the instructions here?

[KYREDP5]

Originally posted by djstan


Hey eggynatey,

It looks like all those cards have their side markers and fogs only. How did you guys do it?! Did you use the instructions here?

LMFAO.... Yes that's what will happen if you follow the directions at the start of this thread...

[djstan]

LMAO

[y0sky]

Here is my how to


http://www.********.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=272

[djstan]

hey guys,

I just realized something. The original reason I was hesistant in trying this mod was that no one so far has accounted for the Daytime Running Lights here in Canada. Our headlights stay on ALL the time at a low setting. It's the law here.

So even if I do this mod, i have to find a way to kill the DRL's. Does anyone know how to do this?

Anyone have a workshop wiring manual for the Canadian version of the car?

[ghost]

another outstanding how-to from no other than us,lol!!!
Good job yosky thats three and one more on its way.


Comming soon, Mazda6 lowering springs install How-to. Stay tuned!!!

[rednecks_r_us]

eggynatey

After seeing all those cars with fogs & parking lights I had to add mine. I was feeling left out.

See page 2 of my homepage.

rednecks_r_us (http://members.cardomain.com/rednecks_r_us)

[NVMY03GT]

Y0sky.. Excellent how to. One question does this work on the '02 Protege LX's as well? I saw yours was a P5 so I was a bit concerned. Can anyone verify?

[y0sky]

I did this on a mp3 and mazdaspeed protege this weekend. It was exactly the same. I figure all 3rd gen proteges are the same.

[Suliman]

Has anyone tried listening to the fog lamp relay to see if when the high beam are hit, the realy triggers???

If so, it may be triggered in that relay (power from the high beam triggers the relay open, cutting power to the fogs).

[fLyPiNoY7]

would i still have control over turning on and off my fog lights like before the mod?

[Natey]

Yes. Just hit the button ;)


Looks good, Bill! What a cool and easy little upgrade, huh?(rockon)
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/352000-352999/352137_35_full.jpg

[INiTiAL33]

so anyone know how to do this on a Canadian spec Protege?

If anyone can figure it out that would be great...

[rednecks_r_us]

It is one of the best low buck modifications.

It didn't cost me anything, I had all the parts in my garage already.

I am still wondering how to get all 6 lights to stay on though.
But for the time being I am happy with this mod.

Thanks again for spelling it out for us.

Drive with pride ... the Protege 5. (the new MAZDA 3 is ugly)


Bill

[djstan]

Originally posted by INiTiAL33
so anyone know how to do this on a Canadian spec Protege?

If anyone can figure it out that would be great...

i second that, does anyone know how to do so? the extra bit of canadian bacon is the daytime running lamps, if anyone knows how to kill them, we'd have ourselves a hero.

[rednecks_r_us]

I guess if you wanted to get into the wiring you could get a switch and interupt the elelctricity that goes into the DRL's.

Toggle off = DRLs off
Toggle on = DRLs on.

Another fog light swich from a wrecked protege5 would fit nicely next to the original swich and get rid of that useless "coin holder".

Just a redneck suggestion since there hasn't been one yet.

[fLyPiNoY7]

hmm....from what im seeing in y0sky's mod and in mike's mod, it seems as if the relay boxes r located in different places...mike, did u install this in a p5 or just a sedan? and what year is ur car since they may have moved the box to another place?

[djstan]

Originally posted by rednecks_r_us
I guess if you wanted to get into the wiring you could get a switch and interupt the elelctricity that goes into the DRL's.

Toggle off = DRLs off
Toggle on = DRLs on.

Another fog light swich from a wrecked protege5 would fit nicely next to the original swich and get rid of that useless "coin holder".

Just a redneck suggestion since there hasn't been one yet.

thanks red, apreciate the effort. only problem is, i haven't been able to figure out which wires are for the DRL's. doesn't seem to be anyone here with the shop manual for the cdn spec.

[fLyPiNoY7]

can i cut the wires and use the space connectors with the ease that it will still work?...cause i dont wanna go and cut wires without it working but i also dont want to pull connectors out of harnesses and try to put new ones that fit into it...

edit: it works!!! pics coming later!

[fLyPiNoY7]

working!

[INiTiAL33]

if anyone can figure out how to do this with the Canadian cars i'll buy them a drink!...lol

Scenerio is like this :

1) want to get a HID kit.....
2) want the fogs to become the DRL

[Natey]

yeah FlyPinoY7! There's so many of us doing this mod, pretty soon people in Cali will think P5s come stock like ours. ;)

To answer an earlier question: Yes, the P5 and 3rd gen sedan are exactly the same. About 5 of us did it at once during a Hwy 9 meet, and one guy had a 2002 ES. His wiring was identical to ours. :)

Where's all the the Canadian Wiring gurus? Throw these guys a bone, will ya?

[herbieP5]

Canada cant get no love. I would love to do this mod but am cursed with the drl's. one way of terminating the DRL's is to ground your e brake cabel perminantly at the handle, but then you have to deal with the brake light being on. If anyone can figure out a way around this. please post.

[INiTiAL33]

No Canadian wiring gurus?!

come on guys..... im dying to know........lol

[Bumble G]

Here you go.

Canadian version by me.

http://www.protegemp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26232

[Little Beavis]

Quick question. . .
with this mod, do the fog lights come on without the parking lights too? I'm guessing not.

I messed around with the fog lights tonight (bored / frustrated) and I hooked them up two different ways but couldn't get what I wanted (I was not trying this mod though). Here's what I found I could do by re-wiring the switch.

I managed to get the fog lights to come on all alone and with the parking lights, but then they would shut off when I turned on the headlights. Cool, but not cool.

I then wired them up where they did not turn on until the headlights were on, but I could then keep them on when I went to my brights. . .again, cool, but not cool.

Now, I need to figure out how to do both, then I'm set. I'm trying not to re-wire the whole damn thing in the process. But I think I'm stuck with the relay. It is switching the lights from a voltage source to a ground. . .just a simple relay trick, but I'm having problems isolating the signal I want. Anyway, I gave up. . .Miller time.

Just wondering if others have had much luck. If I find more time, I'm sure I'll come up with something. In the mean time. . .I guess I'll work on figuring out how to get the fog lights on my 6 to work. Damn sparky crap.

[MisterT]

I haven't tried this yet, but do you have to remove the panel (foglight switch) in order to get to the wires behind it? If so, what' the best way of taking it out?

MisterT

[MisterT]

Maybe with this mod I won't have to worry about headlights dimming to the bass. I can just run my fog lights and parking lights on at night! :D Damn whimpy wiring in Proteges. I have to upgrade wires from alt to battery now! :mad: I am not expecting any improvements because I tried Groundkit and a bigger battery, and was using a 1.5 farad cap from the beginning. :rolleyes:

MisterT

[asylum24]

couldnt u just take the power wire from the fog and attach it to like the cigarrette lighter and leave it at that?

[ARunto]

Ok did the foglight mod today...and if you follow the schematics that Bubble G has made it will work. Just take into account that US made cars do not have the DRL unit.

My foglights work with the parking lights on and also when the headlights are on high beam.

-Alan

[MisterT]

Originally posted by ARunto
Ok did the foglight mod today...and if you follow the schematics that Bubble G has made it will work. Just take into account that US made cars do not have the DRL unit.

My foglights work with the parking lights on and also when the headlights are on high beam.

-Alan

Cool. Do you have to remove the panel with the controls of the fog lights to get to the wires behind the fog light switch? That was my biggest problem, trying to get to wires behind the foglight switch.:rolleyes:

MisterT

[ARunto]

Best thing to do is pop the side panel out I did from the bottom and poped it inside out...You'll see the connector to for the foglight switch.

-Alan

[Kauai Dave]

i'd just like to say that this is a very good "how to" because if a dork like myself can do it then N-E 1 can do it. plus it's cool!

[Mr. Win]

just so you know fogs turn off when high beams on alays was tat way.

[djstan]

this mod actually lets you keep the fogs on with high beams

[duMb KeoLa]

Originally posted by djstan
this mod actually lets you keep the fogs on with high beams

which mod are you talking about??? the original, or the one that bumble g made??? and if its the one that bumble g made..will this work on a U.S. spec car??? i want to actually get them to run without any of the lights (parking, regular, high beams) on but no one can figure that out yet...so im just wondering if any U.S. spec cars out there got their fogs to work with parking, regular, and high beams on...


thanks in advance

[ARunto]

i did the bubble g mod...i can get the fogs to work with parking lights, high beams, and low beams.

[duMb KeoLa]

solid man! thanks...did you actually use a female to male connector between the two or did you actually splice the wires? im thinking just make it permanent and use crimpers and splice them...anyone know any draw backs to these mods??? thanks

[NVMY03GT]

Will someone "please" post pictures of how to do this mama jamma PLEASE?!?! I tried to post pictures.. I'm doing mine on an 03 Mazda.. Can someone help me out on this ?? PLEASE?!?!

[ARunto]

Originally posted by duMb KeoLa
solid man! thanks...did you actually use a female to male connector between the two or did you actually splice the wires? im thinking just make it permanent and use crimpers and splice them...anyone know any draw backs to these mods??? thanks

I spliced into the wires. Everything has been working great.

[Groza187]

call me retarded but can i get some pix.

[blakesmith13]

hey guys im a newbie. does this even work on a 2003? i can't figure out anything cuz i can't even get the panel off to begin! if someone lived in the bham area and would like to help that'd be great or send me some pictures or just tell me no that'd be great.

[drew72ca]

Hey guys...I tried to figure out on my own how to get TOTAL control of the fog lights to where they would work as long as the ignition is on. I did this with taking the original how-to and taking some voltage and continuity measurements. Made a mistake somewhere and burned the relay, but I'm working on figuring it out still with a tech at my work. I think the schematic Bubble G or Bumble G (whatever the name was...LOL) will help. I'm also gonna talk to the delaer to see if I can con 'em outta a schematic. I'm looking to take it a couple steps further to tap into a power source that is only on when the engine is running. Then the fog light switch will have power and work. This idea will allow the fog lights to be turned on or off anytime the engine is running with no reference to the headlights or parking lights at all. This will also prevent them from coming on whenver the engine isn't running (no dead batteries).

I'll let you knowe how to do it when I figure it out.

A couple questions...

mikebluep5 and ghostp5...

what diameter, width and offset are the wheels you have? the ones shown in your sigs? what size tires also?

Later,

Andy

[djstan]

Andy, dude, Bumble G's HOW TO does exactly what you're saying you want. I followed his instructions (read my post) and it works exactly the way it should, which is what you're describing.

[duMb KeoLa]

what about on U.S. spec cars for bumbleg's how too??? what steps do we skip, improvise, whatever on so that ill work for our cars...we do not have drl so i dont know what to do with that part of the how to...thanks

[djstan]

good question...

the original how to covered that, bumble g's was just for canada... buuuut... if you take the installation steps and subtract the drl stuff, look closely at the wiring diagram and UNDERSTAND it (takes some time to really understand what he had done and why he bypassed stuff), you could do it successfully as well.

basically the drl box sits between the switches and such, not much needs to be done to remove it from the installation steps.

if you don't read diagrams well, show it to a techie and they'll understand it in a sec.

[duMb KeoLa]

well..i was looking at it and it seems like i just have to bypass one wire...seems tooo easy to me...but we will see..maybe trying this tonight

[drew72ca]

I did it! Using Bumble G's schematic really helped. For U.S. cars it's a little different, but pretty simple. Look at his schematic and ignore the part about the DRL. Basically, there are two wires you need to work with...the red wire on the relay and the red/white wire on the switch. The red wire on the relay is where it gets the 12V to activate the relay and activate the fog lights. The red/white wire, on the switch, is where the circuit gets its ground. On U.S. cars, this wire goes through the headlight lever to make a ground when in low beam and remove the ground in high beam. So, here's what you do:

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Splice a wire to the red wire on the relay for a 12V source (I piggybacked off my cigarette lighter so the lights can be active with the ignition)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the switch
4. Splice a wire to the red/white on the switch and attach that to ground somewhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

The way I did it, my fog lights now will come on with my ignition and the switch still works to enable and disable. The lights work independent of the conditions of the headlights. If you want to go even further, you can try to find a power source to tap into for the red wire on the relay that only provides power when the engine is running, but this way was pretty simple and foolproof. The only thing you need to remember with the way I did it is that if the key is on (in acc, on) the fog lights will be on if the switch is on.

Hope this helps anyone wanting to do it.

Andy

[duMb KeoLa]

HOLY FUCK!!!!!! YOU INDEED ARE THE MAN...JUST INTIME FOR CHRISTMAS TOO...MY CAR WILL LOVE IT!!!

THANKS MAN

[duMb KeoLa]

WELL IT WORKS!!!

i did this mod that drew72ca wrote up and it works like a charm...i just hooked the red wire from the relay up to my ignition wire, and the red/white wire from the fog light switch to a ground wire and wwaaallllaaaa...it works...here are some pics of it working...

JUST FOG LIGHTS
http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/_handler.php/duMb%20KeoLa/fog%20light%20001.jpg

WITH PARKING LAMPS
http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/_handler.php/duMb%20KeoLa/fog%20light%20002.jpg

REGULAR LIGHTS
http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/_handler.php/duMb%20KeoLa/fog%20light%20003.jpg

HIGH BEAMS
http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/_handler.php/duMb%20KeoLa/fog%20light%20004.jpg

[duMb KeoLa]

it took about 10 mins and is one of the best mods i did...i love it now!!!

[drew72ca]

Glad a couple of you got it to work. I must say I love it too. I'm basically gonna use mine so I have daytime running lights and full control over the fog lights. I must say it looks pretty cool with just the fog lights on when I have the car on at night.

The credit shouldn't go to me though....Bumble G deserves all the credit since he posted the schematic. With that, it makes it extremely easy to figure out....at least for me. I guess my EE degree and experience comes in handy once in a while...LOL!

Thanks a bunch Bumble!!!

Andy

[duMb KeoLa]

anyone else try it yet?

[vodapas77]

I did it. Definitely the best 1 hour mod I have ever done. I just wish we could drive in town with only our fogs and city lights on.

[niko]

well i finished mine aslo! but did the one that stays on with parking lights! gonna try and fix it so it stays on independently!


keola....so if you could help me with that! i dunno which ignition wire to tap into!


lang.......IM DONE!! haha! but see if i get n-e-trouble redoing it tho!




ill post pics of it tomorrow! tired already! plus not to happy cause i shorted out my alarm in the process! so now i gotta buy a freggin new one!



hawaii peeps......know n-e-one who can hook me up with dirt cheap! i know i pmed most of you! haha but i dont wanna spend too much cause i still wanna lower my car! sorry for typing on just tired and a lil'wired! aight yall!





peace.......

[drew72ca]

I must say, after a couple weeks or so of having this mod done, I love it! I let my fogs stay on all the time, as long as the car is on. Use them as DRL's and I think it looks great. It's really cool at dusk cuz I'll turn on the running lights with them (eventhough I'm probably risking a ticket in good 'ol So Cal). I love when I'm somewehre where I need the brights too, gives that extra light close and to the side of the car that I used to lose when the fogs turned off with the brights. :-) How's everyone else liking it, that has done the mod?

Andy

[y0sky]

If anyone needs pictures to do the mod this is a how to I made a while back

http://www.********.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=610

[drew72ca]

If you go back a page on this thread you will see how I did it so they can be on, even if the parking lights are not. I tapped into the cigarette lighter to provide power to the relay so whenever my key is on, the lights can be on, but they are controlled by the switch. Take a look at the pics and my instructions if you want to do it this way. It's a similar process with a couple little differences, but the pictures and my description should help ya do it.

Andy

[niko]

sorry its late but heres my attempt! haha!






/members/niko/pictures 143.jpg







drew72ca......was planning on doing your way by realying it to the ignition wire but thinking about it i dont really wanna keep turning off and on my fogs when i start my cause i dont wanna drive with them on during the day but i dunno? maybe i still will haha! thanks for the info tho!

[drew72ca]

Yeah, my mod is definitely if you want control of the fogs without having to turn on the parking lights. I did it that way cuz I WANTED to have them on all the time so they also function as DRL's, but I can see your point as to having to shut the fog switch off during the day if you don't want them on. It's cool we have a couple ways to do it now so everyone can pick their preference :-)

Andy

[duMb KeoLa]

i love the mod...i have auto start and a turbo timer so that shit goes on and stays on longer than when im in the car....its pretty co0L because people trip out and look in the car all the time because i can start it when im not in there...i just looks a lot better and all you have to do to turn it off is press the button....how hard is that???

[niko]

dumb keola.....just to freggin lazy! haha! its just that dont wanna keep doin it cause i have after market bulbs in my fogs and dont wanna keep ordering it and replacing them nah mean? if i had the stocks in i wouldve done it in a heart beat! but yeah i dunno still thinking bout it! cause it does look cleaner with out the parking lights! but your auto start is freggin' sick dude!

[EticketP5]

Just finished - about 20mins - thanks to the How To w/ Pictures that yOsky did. Now I have to wait for dusk to experience my new found Mod.

[MSP Chris]

easiest mod ever. :)

[wannabe]

w00t! just finished them! rock on!

[luvmyprotege5]

If you go back a page on this thread you will see how I did it so they can be on, even if the parking lights are not. I tapped into the cigarette lighter to provide power to the relay so whenever my key is on, the lights can be on, but they are controlled by the switch. Take a look at the pics and my instructions if you want to do it this way. It's a similar process with a couple little differences, but the pictures and my description should help ya do it.

Andy

Hey thanx for the how-to. What I did was hook the red wire from the relay to true ignition. If you have an alarm your alarms ignition wire should be hooked to this already so all you really need to do is tap into that wire. This way my fogs are on whenever my car is on. Then i just grounded the red/white wire from the switch to a chassie ground. Still have full controll of my fogs when I want with the switch. Even though I never turn them off I still can if I wanted to. Took like 15 minutes. Thanx again

[klieu]

Hey thanx for the how-to. What I did was hook the red wire from the relay to true ignition. If you have an alarm your alarms ignition wire should be hooked to this already so all you really need to do is tap into that wire. This way my fogs are on whenever my car is on. Then i just grounded the red/white wire from the switch to a chassie ground. Still have full controll of my fogs when I want with the switch. Even though I never turn them off I still can if I wanted to. Took like 15 minutes. Thanx again

Hi Everyone

I am not car enthusiast. How do I find the true ignition wire ? Where is it ? I would appreciate from your help, pictures are excellent if you have it

Thank you very much

[wannabe]

the way i did it was off my cd player. if you have an aftermarket deck, its real easy. there should be a red wire going into your cd player, thats your ignition power-on. the yellow is your battery power-on. with stock setup, its a little more complex, ill let the other guys explain that.

[luvmyprotege5]

Hi Everyone

I am not car enthusiast. How do I find the true ignition wire ? Where is it ? I would appreciate from your help, pictures are excellent if you have it

Thank you very much
The true ignition is a blue wire, maybe 10 or 12 gauge. You can find it under the dash right under the steering column. It will be comming from the ignition in a group of wires. Use a test light if you have one, the true ignition is the wire that does not shut off when you start the car.

[drew72ca]

Sweet! I'm the same way, I have them on always. The only time I turn them off is if I happen to be running my radio (ignition on) while washing the car or sitting in the car just relaxing, waiting for something.

Andy


Hey thanx for the how-to. What I did was hook the red wire from the relay to true ignition. If you have an alarm your alarms ignition wire should be hooked to this already so all you really need to do is tap into that wire. This way my fogs are on whenever my car is on. Then i just grounded the red/white wire from the switch to a chassie ground. Still have full controll of my fogs when I want with the switch. Even though I never turn them off I still can if I wanted to. Took like 15 minutes. Thanx again

[albystyle]

hey guys,i broke my fog light switch was wondering if i can some how get the fogs to light up without the switch or mabey help connecting a toggle switch.thanx.. albert

[drew72ca]

You can replace the switch with a standard toggle switch or illuminated switch. If you take a look through this thread, there should be the information on how the switch is wired up. Basically, the stock switch has 4 wires. 2 wires provide a 12V and ground, to illuminate the switch with the parking / dash lights. The other two wires just function as a normally open switch. If you can't find the information on the thread, let us know. One of us can double check and get the wiring colors for you. You will need to remove the wiring harness plug, or splice into it to run a standard toggle switch or illuminated toggle. Have you checked with the dealr on the price of a new switch? If it's not real expensive, I'd go that route.

Andy


hey guys,i broke my fog light switch was wondering if i can some how get the fogs to light up without the switch or mabey help connecting a toggle switch.thanx.. albert

[luvmyprotege5]

(attn) I would just go to a junk yard and get a switch out of a wrecked protege. its small enough to just slip into your pocket and just leave. (gossip)

[albystyle]

well none of the local junkyards have any 3rd generations and the dealer wants almost $60.00.i'm probably better off using a toggle switch.do i need one with 2 or 4 connecters?does anyone know which wire is which,or how to connect the toggle?(sorry i'm a newbie).... thanks albystyle

[drew72ca]

You can use a standard switch with 2 prongs and just use it as a switch, then hook it to the two wires that the fog light switch controls just as a switch.

If you want it illuminated, it will be a 3 prong switch. 1 prong will be for the illumination, which you can tie to the voltage coming into the stock switch to illuminate it. The second prong will make the connection for the "switch". The third will be a common/ground. You would hook the common/ground from the stock switches "switch" wire AND illumination wire, then hook the other two wires up to the illumination and the other side of the "switch", respectively.

If you don't know much about switches and electrical, I'd have someone help you do it.

Andy


well none of the local junkyards have any 3rd generations and the dealer wants almost $60.00.i'm probably better off using a toggle switch.do i need one with 2 or 4 connecters?does anyone know which wire is which,or how to connect the toggle?(sorry i'm a newbie).... thanks albystyle

[albystyle]

thanks andy,i hooked up a switch with three prongs, the only problem is the foglights only light up with my parkings lights and shuts off with my low beams.i try every combo possible and blew 5 fuses.i guess i'll just live with that for now. thanks albert

[drew72ca]

Hmmm, not sure why it's doing that. Can you tell me how it's wired up and maybe I can help.

Andy


thanks andy,i hooked up a switch with three prongs, the only problem is the foglights only light up with my parkings lights and shuts off with my low beams.i try every combo possible and blew 5 fuses.i guess i'll just live with that for now. thanks albert

[albystyle]

well guys, got another problem....i just went and bought another stock switch and connected every thing as normal....(at least i hope so)....well now i lost my dash and parking lights....help! anybody! .........albystyle

[drew72ca]

Sounds to me like something might be miswired. I would suggest getting a schematic of the wiring and check it thouroughly. See if the Mazda dealer has it or go to an auto parts store and buy a Haynes manula for your car. Something may be wired wrong or shorted.

Andy


well guys, got another problem....i just went and bought another stock switch and connected every thing as normal....(at least i hope so)....well now i lost my dash and parking lights....help! anybody! .........albystyle

[albystyle]

hey guys i just need a favor.can someone look at their harness connected to the stock foglight switch and tell exactly which wire goes in which slot....i think thats my problem because when i removed the wires from the harness i didn't note the order of the wires.....basically if someone can tell me which wire goes where with the harness clip facing up.....once i get that right, then i can start troubleshooting....thanks and i really appreiciate all the help..... albert

[sidpro5]

Did my fogs last night, at work, in the parking lot of the grocery store I work p/t at. Best 5 minute mod ever! (and free, too)

[andyfatsax]

All I want to do is cut out the DRL altogether! How ??? Can I just clip the YELLOW/GREEN wire connected to the parking brake switch and that will turn off the DRL? My new HID kit is freaking out cause it doesn't know what to do with the DRL signal.

[drew72ca]

If you look through this thread, or search under foglights, you will find the information posted for the canadian version of cars with the daytime running lights. That schematic in that post shows you how the DRL's work and you should be able to figure it from there on what you need to disconnect to disable them.

Andy


All I want to do is cut out the DRL altogether! How ??? Can I just clip the YELLOW/GREEN wire connected to the parking brake switch and that will turn off the DRL? My new HID kit is freaking out cause it doesn't know what to do with the DRL signal.

[andyfatsax]

Yeah I see that, I think I'll just try snipping that mofo and see if it works. According to the drawings, you can put an on/off switch in there so if you cut it completely you should be turning them off permanently.

[andyfatsax]

Yeah I tried it and that shizzle don't work, I tried a number of things and it appears there is no way to cut out the DRL's completely. Any suggestions?

BTW: Whoever said this is a 10 minute job must be a genious. Right now I can't feel any of the muscles in my back or neck from all the twisting my body in ways it shouldn't twist trying to access those wires!

[Carl]

Thanks drew72ca, bumble G, sttl013, 1stMP#inNH, the academy, _________ (insert yer name if I forgot ya). (cheers2)

I can toggle my fogs too even with the high beams! Yay! :)

I wouldn't say it's a 5 minute job. I guess it depends on the method (stoned)



I did it! Using Bumble G's schematic really helped. For U.S. cars it's a little different, but pretty simple. Look at his schematic and ignore the part about the DRL. Basically, there are two wires you need to work with...the red wire on the relay and the red/white wire on the switch. The red wire on the relay is where it gets the 12V to activate the relay and activate the fog lights. The red/white wire, on the switch, is where the circuit gets its ground. On U.S. cars, this wire goes through the headlight lever to make a ground when in low beam and remove the ground in high beam. So, here's what you do:

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Splice a wire to the red wire on the relay for a 12V source (I piggybacked off my cigarette lighter so the lights can be active with the ignition)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the switch
4. Splice a wire to the red/white on the switch and attach that to ground somewhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

The way I did it, my fog lights now will come on with my ignition and the switch still works to enable and disable. The lights work independent of the conditions of the headlights. If you want to go even further, you can try to find a power source to tap into for the red wire on the relay that only provides power when the engine is running, but this way was pretty simple and foolproof. The only thing you need to remember with the way I did it is that if the key is on (in acc, on) the fog lights will be on if the switch is on.

Hope this helps anyone wanting to do it.

Andy

[sidpro5]

BTW: Whoever said this is a 10 minute job must be a genious.Why thank you! Actually it was just a bit less, but I didn't have to worry about the DRL's. I was just doing the "Independant of the headlights" thing, as mine is not equipped with DRL's. Not bad for a 15 min break period.....Smoke, foglight mod, smoke, back to work...........Also installed my under-dash neons on break, but a different night. I love being there when the manager isn't!!

[andyfatsax]

Yeah man, cdn cars have the DRL plauge, I really don't give a rats about the fogs, all I want is to cut out the damn DRL's cause my HID's are freaking out! I tried everything and nothing seems to work. Guess I will have to visit a pro!

[sidpro5]

That sucks, man. What exactly do you mean by "freaking out"? I guess since they're not meant to be on all the time, they try to fight the signal from the DRL? Hope you get it worked out.

[KyRaceFan]

Just did the mod, and works like a charm. I found it was easiest to follow the instructions on the 1st page. All those tool lists and step by steps just confused me...

Definately an easy mod!

[Bass Addict]

Ok, so I cut the solid red wire at the relay, I bring that cut wire up to the green/black wire. Then when I turn on my DL, my headlights come on, and my fogs wont even with the headlight switch on. Am I doing something wrong? Can someone please take a picture.

[y0sky]

I have detailed pictures in my post above

Ok, so I cut the solid red wire at the relay, I bring that cut wire up to the green/black wire. Then when I turn on my DL, my headlights come on, and my fogs wont even with the headlight switch on. Am I doing something wrong? Can someone please take a picture.

[Laser03pro]

What size and kind of wire conncectors do i need to do this the way that MikeBluep5 did.

[Bass Addict]

I have detailed pictures in my post above
Link doesn't work, you get a 404 error. (boom03)

[y0sky]

ok

link update

http://www.********.com/forum/showthread.php?t=610

[Laser03pro]

I regestered and it still wont let me see the pix.

[Laser03pro]

I swear that was the biggest pain in the ass! I bought some connectors and they didnt wanna stay in the harness then you cant find any that are brass or gold like the stock ones. So you could goto plug it in and it would push the connector out. There not spade connectors the only ones that were called spade were the fork lookin ones. They r just male and female terminal connectors. I hope the stock connectors would stay in now.

[iluvmacs]

I feel I need to update this really quick.

First, you don't have to touch the fog light switch to do this mod. You can do it all by supplying the relay with the power source of your choice (always on, ignition only, etc). Cut the red wire on the relay, and attach the power source wire.

Second, someone mentioned the ignition on wire is the blue wire coming out of the key switch. This is incorrect. It is the wire opposite the blue wire. See the attached wiring diagram. The blue wire is 1B.

edited: If you don't ground the red/white wire on the switch, if you activate the brights, the fogs will turn off, and whatever your power wire is connected to will now have +12 volts (this is because of the red/white wire being connected to the brights somewhere).

[Laser03pro]

I found the best way to do this is just to cut the red wire on the fog terminal. Then use heat shrink crimp connector to connect it to your new wire. Then just use another crimp connector to connect all three.

[Midnight22]

yeah!! i did it yeah i did it yeah i did it yeah i did it... anyways... i just cut the 2 wires taped eitehr end and crimped the otehr ones where they needed to be, thats it... works fine :)

[MyReDpR5]

I did the fog light mod using the spade connectors so it easy to undo later if needed. Thanks for the how-to!! Worked like a charm and it looks nice. Got it done in under an hour. I ended up purchasing the connectors at my local Meijer store in the automotive section. I am an electronics techinician by trade so this was nothing for me, but for anyone with a little patience it's an easy mod to do. Check out the pics at my website for the end results.

My car webpage (http://www.cardomain.com/id/myredp5)

[srtchick]

I also did this mod .. best part about it is- its free weeeeeeeee ! :)

[Laser03pro]

None of the spade connectors i found at the store wanted to stay in the sockets and i ended causin more harm then good they all didnt snap in right. Cant say i didnt have the right size either cause i bought about every size they had. So it took me awhile runnin all over the place for connectors i would of rather just cut the one wire and connected it to the other. Not like some1 is ever gonna get back there and look. It would also be a nicer install imo and a better connection.

[mellowyellow]

ok here are the pics of my fog light rewire for "On with Parking lights"!!!

[2K3 MSP]

I just did this...I've wanted to do it for some time, just never really got around to it...It took 20 minutes, and that was only because I accidentally wired up the wrong side of the red wire from the relay(hand). That actually made my headlights come on, but only gave them about 50% power. It was a quick fix though. Can't wait to actually see it on my car finally:)

[Leop5]

Thank you all very much i used this how-to and under 10 minutes i did it, took a cable and made a bridge between the green/back cable and red one in fog relay little black box. and thats it!

[Bass Addict]

Ok, so why can't I get this to work? I hooked them up and the headlights came on. You dont have to have a spare wire to do this do you?

[pdhaudio83]

yes you do...

[mellowyellow]

OK Now that i went back and took some pics of my install i thought i would share my knowledge with all!! Sorry if this confuses anyone. If a moderator wants to use this in a sticky then go ahead. I hope this helps.


STEP 1
I PUSHED OUT FROM UNDER THE DASH UNTIL IT POPPED OUT.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/Side%20Panel%20Removal.JPG

STEP 2
HERE IS THE FOR LIGHT HARNESS I POPPED OUT FROM BEHIND THE DASH AND REMOVED THE CONNECTION TO ACCESS THE WIRES.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/Fog%20Light%20Harness.JPG

STEP 3
YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO CRIMP ON A FEMALE CONNECTOR TO NEW WIRE BEFORE REPLACING. I THEN REPLACED THE GREEN AND BLACK WIRE WITH THE WIRE(WHITE) GOING TO THE "Y" CONNECTOR.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/Wire%20Replacement.JPG

STEP 4
I THEN DISCONNECTED THE FOGLIGHT RELAY(look at pic for location) AND PULLED(gently) OUT THE RED WIRE(power). (basicly the red wire is not going to be used and i wire tied it up and out of the way) AND THE WHITE WIRE IS REPLACING THE RED. (you will need to connect this wire to one of the open arms on the "Y" connector)

http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/Fog%20relay%202.JPG

STEP 5
THEN I CONNECTED THE GREEN AND BLACK WIRE TO THE LAST OPEN ARM OF THE "Y" CONNECTOR AND THEN REINSTALLED EVERYTHING.

HERE IS THE FINAL OUTCOME............

http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/MEAN%20P5.JPG

ITEMS USED............
YOU WILL NEED (2) FEMALE SPADE CONNECTORS NOT (1 MALE AND 1 FEMALE)

http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/items%20used.JPG

HERE IS A CLOSE UP OF THE "Y" CONNECTOR AND PART# FOR REFERENCE
http://www.msprotege.com/members/mellowyellow/Three%20Way%20Connect.JPG

[CHEFS P5]

My car does NOT have day time running lights.
The fogs come on, when the parking lights are on. They also are on when the headlights are on. That is if the switch is pressed in, right?
Let me know, pm me please.
Thanks in Advance.
chefs p5

[mellowyellow]

My car does NOT have day time running lights.
The fogs come on, when the parking lights are on. They also are on when the headlights are on. That is if the switch is pressed in, right?
Let me know, pm me please.
Thanks in Advance.
chefs p5

If done correctly, Thats the way it should be! (headbang)

[Phatmack]

Can someone please help me? I'm REALLY interested in doing this bada$$ fog light mod but I want to hook it up like some of you did: So that the fogs are on independant of the headlights any time the car is on. Yet, of course, I want the fog light switch to still work.

I believe a couple of you hooked the red relay wire up to the true ignition wire... I completely understand the mod up until that point. Can someone please point me to the true ignition wire so I can splice into that? I was thinking about taking a picture of under the dash and showing what I think is the ignition wire. Let me know if that would help. Thanks a bunch!!!!

[Phatmack]

bump... someone?!

[FoxPro5]

Did this mod today and it is simple and the results are kick ass. I followed the directions on the first page and the results with pics are listed below:

Pic 1: I cut the green/black wire, wound the wires together, and put a female connector on it, soldered it and taped it. I also cut the red wire at the fog relay, taped up the unused loose end, and put a female connector on it.

Pic 2: I took a 10" 18 ga red wire and put male connectors on both ends. Then pluged one end into black/green female connector at the fog switch and then ran it over and plugged the other end into a female connector that I put on the red wire comming off the fog relay. It's that easy :)

Pic 3: Parking lights turned on with the fogs.
Pic 4: Headlights turned on with the fogs.
Pic 5: High beams on without the fogs.

The whole thing took my slow ass 45 min (headbang)

[FoxPro5]

One more thing to add. I just noticed this morning that when the parking lights are on and I turned the high beams on the fogs shut off thus leaving just the parking lights on??? I haven't done the mental gymnastics to figure this one out, but who cares...it's a free mod that super-duper (2thumbs)

[solomr2]

I'm interested in doing this mod a little different. Can anyone make some suggestions?

I want to operate the fogs completely independant of the parking and headlights. I still want to control them via the switch inside the cabin, but would like for the lights to operate only when car is running so I can never forget to turn them off and drain the battery.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[Phatmack]

I'm interested in doing this mod a little different. Can anyone make some suggestions?

I want to operate the fogs completely independant of the parking and headlights. I still want to control them via the switch inside the cabin, but would like for the lights to operate only when car is running so I can never forget to turn them off and drain the battery.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

If you go back a couple of pages in this thread you'll notice that someone wired it to the true ignition wire. This is what I want to do as well but I'm not sure which is the true ignition wire. That's what my post is all about below. Hopefully someone will come along with a picture of the true igniton wire and we'll know that's the one we need to tap into. So yeah. Anyone?!

[solomr2]

If you go back a couple of pages in this thread you'll notice that someone wired it to the true ignition wire. This is what I want to do as well but I'm not sure which is the true ignition wire. That's what my post is all about below. Hopefully someone will come along with a picture of the true igniton wire and we'll know that's the one we need to tap into. So yeah. Anyone?!

Anyone? Update on true ignition wire? Someone mentioned it was the blue wire coming out of the ignition switch, but a few posts later someone else said it was the wrong one. Does anyone know which is the right one?

While I'm here, is there any kind of indicator inside the cabin to inform you that your fogs are on? During the day its pretty hard to know if you have them on or not.

[DiS]

I'm interested in doing this mod a little different. Can anyone make some suggestions?

I want to operate the fogs completely independant of the parking and headlights. I still want to control them via the switch inside the cabin, but would like for the lights to operate only when car is running so I can never forget to turn them off and drain the battery.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Regarding FORGETING to turn off the fogs...Well let me just say that if you will wire the fogs as described in very 1st post you wont forget to turn them off. Since they will be hooked up with your illumination lights, when you will take out the key, the annoying BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP will start going off letting you know that you forgot the lights. As far as independent hook up.....you can always hook it up straight to the battery.



P.S. I FOLLOWED the instructions on the very 1st post and it worked great. Now since my aftermarket alarm is hooked up so my illumination lights blink when I lock it or unlock it, MY FOGS BLINK ALSO. Freaking nice as hell. Mad props to who made this possible. (did it today)

[Phatmack]

Anyone? Please? Maybe a picture or at least confirmation of where the true ignition wire is? It'd be appreciated. Thx.

[DiS]

Anyone? Please? Maybe a picture or at least confirmation of where the true ignition wire is? It'd be appreciated. Thx.

look for the remote starter and directions on how to install it. Directions will point out where the ignition wire is. Thats how I would do it.

[Minus]

i did my today. it took my ass forever. possibly because i kept assing around and decided to change bulbs and decided to clean my car out. (i have adhd... seriously lol) but anywho yea i got it done and yea its pretty cool, i guess. I donno nothing too special but it works. I chose the method where you can control it with the switch, and I never noticed how bright my headlights were, but at about 10 p.m. I left the house and got about 4 or 5 miles down the road and realized that my headlights were off. I only noticed because I looked at my gauges and was like WTF did I wire something up wrong? then i looked at the road in front of me and noticed my headlights didn't have the distance they used to.. Then it hit me and I turned on my lights and the high beams were already on and the sun came out in front of my car (so to speak) wow it was hella bright in front of my car.

My favorite DIY mod remains the window mod. Fucking awesome..

[Laser03pro]

The window mod?

[Minus]

yeah man, it was as how to which was hella simple. all you need is a really skinny flat head screw driver, a rachet, a 10mm socket, and about 5-10 minutes. Freaking awesome.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36875

[altspace]

Fogs are now on...schweet! Took 15 minutes. Thx guys!

[solomr2]

I just did this mod a few minutes ago. It was really, really easy, thanks to all the great feedback. I did it like drew72ca's method, with a minor change - I connected the red wire from the relay to the blue ignition wire - a thick 12-guage wire coming down from the steering column, next to a black wire of same thickness. Using a test light I confirmed this wire is only hot when the ignition is on.

The result for me is the fogs come on under control of the fog-light switch, totally independent of the headlights, parking lights, high-beams. But now the fogs only come on when the ignition is "ON". They do not light when the key is in the "ACC" position. This allows me to listen to the radio without having the lights on by mistake.

[Rogue]

i messed up somewhere...this is what I did

cut the red wire
cut the green/black wire
taped up the red wire that leads into the car
stripped red wire connected to fog lamp switch
stripped grn/blk wire ends (2)
twisted red and grn/blk wires coming from switch
inserted twisted wire in one end of splicer and grn/blk wire in other end and crimped them tight

results:
Fogs on with parking lights
Fogs won't come on with lowbeam or high beam

HELP

[solomr2]

I didn't touch any green/black wires. I followed drew72ca with my small exception noted in my last post. Here are Drew's instructions:

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Splice a wire to the red wire on the relay for a 12V source (Drew used the cig lighter, I used the thick blue ignition wire)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the fog switch
4. Splice a wire to the red/white on the switch and attach that to ground somewhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

I would mend the green/black wires you cut and try following these directions.

[Rogue]

I didn't touch any green/black wires. I followed drew72ca with my small exception noted in my last post. Here are Drew's instructions:

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Splice a wire to the red wire on the relay for a 12V source (Drew used the cig lighter, I used the thick blue ignition wire)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the fog switch
4. Splice a wire to the red/white on the switch and attach that to ground somewhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

I would mend the green/black wires you cut and try following these directions.
thanx!! I'll do that after (drive) today

[Groza187]

I just did the original fog mod. Fairly easy and I love the look. I spent maybe 15 minutes on it. Good write up.

[loccusst]

I did the original mod in the install bay where I work along with the window mod...took a total of like maybe 10 min tops. Great write ups on both how to's. I like it myself since I have a alarm/remote starter, now the fogs are on when I come out to the car or if the alarm goes off.

[NRRfrogmanP5]

maybe a project for weds

[PR5Matt]

How do I wire the fogs to be on with my low beams (not always on)?

[DiS]

How do I wire the fogs to be on with my low beams (not always on)?

dude, read the 1st post......

[churrosurf]

I just did this mod a few minutes ago. It was really, really easy, thanks to all the great feedback. I did it like drew72ca's method, with a minor change - I connected the red wire from the relay to the blue ignition wire - a thick 12-guage wire coming down from the steering column, next to a black wire of same thickness. Using a test light I confirmed this wire is only hot when the ignition is on.

The result for me is the fogs come on under control of the fog-light switch, totally independent of the headlights, parking lights, high-beams. But now the fogs only come on when the ignition is "ON". They do not light when the key is in the "ACC" position. This allows me to listen to the radio without having the lights on by mistake.


Can you tell me where is located the fog lamps relay?? thanks

[DiS]

dude, reading the whole thread might help...........

relay is located under steering wheel panel (to the left). Read 1st couple of posts. Im sure its described...

[JCell]

wow, this was ez, even easier than the window mod, and THAT was easy

great write upS everybody (2thumbs)

[marc0834]

I dd the black green wire thing . it is working but when i use my high beam the fogs turn off. i tried the red wire diagram it seems it does not work , or just i got confused. which diagram are we talking about US or canada?this is what i did on the red wire diagram : cut the red from the switch ground it, then the red from the relay i hooked it up on acc. and wala nothing happend .I tried the geen wire and works .

[solomr2]

You shouldn't need to touch the green/black wires. I have mine wired so they shine only when the ignition is on, but they are totally independent of parking lights, low/high beams, etc. And the fog switch is still functional, so I can shut them off whenever I want. Here is the way I wired mine;

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Connect the red wire from the relay to a 12V switched source (Drew72ca used the cig lighter, I used the thick blue ignition wire next to the steering column)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the fog switch
4. Connect the red/white wire from the switch to ground anywhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

I hope this helps.

[Brian MP5T]

Ha!

[marc0834]

I was planning on putting on neons under the seats and under the dash.Put i can't figure out where to tap the wires, i would like to work the neons when i open the car, then it lights up like the average dome light . the thing is I installed an 8" monitor replacing the dome light . so i cant see when it dark.i tried to wire it with the original wiring for the dome light,i tried using a test light and there is no constant power. i need help

[whitemp5seattle]

hmmmm...I did the original mod on the 1st page, and it's not working. Now my fogs don't work at all...I made the extra with with two female connectors and one male connector, and plugged it in like this:

[fog light switch]---------------(male)-------------------[fog light relay]

the male connector is plugged into the green/black wire from the fog switch

the red wire from the fog light relay is taped off to the side.

why isn't this working?

[bamflee84]

Here I have read through the whole forum and found so many different set ups. I want to know if some can confirm a specific set up.
I want to be able to:
1. use the stock switch
2. only have the fog lights turn on when I turn on my headlights or parking lights
2. have the fog lights stay on when the high beams are on.

Is there a way to do this set up. Also if anyone can tell me if the fog lights on a protege es uses the same harnes as the fog lights on a p5. Thank you

[RedKatanax9]

Just did the mod, thanks, Mike!
Took some photos that should help those who hasn't done it.

The only thing I did differently was simply cutting the red wire, and use a twist on connector to connect another wire to it, because I didn't have a female spade that is the same size as the factory one. If you wanted to go back you can simply reconnect the red wires.

The first photo shows the relay hardness, with the blue mask taped screwdriver pointing to it. If you put your finger on it and turn the foglight switch on and off you can feel the hardness vibrate a bit.

2nd photo shows the switch hardness with the green/black spade popped out from the hardness.

3rd photo shows the wiring.

[eljefe305]

worked like a charm using the 1st post instructions

[RedKatanax9]

Love this mod! (thumb)

[Protege_Speed]

Is it illegal to drive with just the fog lights on at night? Would a cop have reason to pull you over? I have seen many people just use their fogs at night and I was just wondering if it's asking for trouble.

[RedKatanax9]

Is it illegal to drive with just the fog lights on at night? Would a cop have reason to pull you over? I have seen many people just use their fogs at night and I was just wondering if it's asking for trouble.

Yeah, it's illegal in Oregon, and I would think for most other places as well. It was just for the photo. :D

[andyfatsax]

Here is my favorite mod....well next to my sport shifter!

[RedKatanax9]

Here is my favorite mod....well next to my sport shifter!

Wooo, puuurty. The car is cool, too! ;)

[Protege_Speed]

If I follow the instructions in the first post, does the switch still work to turn the foglights on and off? Can someone confirm this?

What I want:
- Switch to still work
- Fogs on with Parking Lights
- Fogs on with Headlights
- Fogs off with High Beams

I know it's in this thread somewhere but there are so many variations.

[Dimitrios]

If I follow the instructions in the first post, does the switch still work to turn the foglights on and off? Can someone confirm this?

What I want:
- Switch to still work
- Fogs on with Parking Lights
- Fogs on with Headlights
- Fogs off with High Beams

I know it's in this thread somewhere but there are so many variations.

You need to run a 12v source to the red wire coming from the relay. This accomplishes making the fog switch independent of the rest of the headlight switch setup.

Follow drew's instructions, post 85 on Page 3: http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showpost.php?p=616518&postcount=85

[novadan67]

Here I have read through the whole forum and found so many different set ups. I want to know if some can confirm a specific set up.
I want to be able to:
1. use the stock switch
2. only have the fog lights turn on when I turn on my headlights or parking lights
2. have the fog lights stay on when the high beams are on.

Is there a way to do this set up. Also if anyone can tell me if the fog lights on a protege es uses the same harnes as the fog lights on a p5. Thank you

I am going to set my fog lights up exactly as you described - and I know how to do it. If you follow the first post you will get the setup you want except the fogs will turn off with the high beams. To fix this, borrow steps 3 and 4 from drew72ca's writeup (page 6) and connect the red/white wire on the swicth to ground. This will keep the fogs on with the high beams. I am probably going to do it this weekend - I can post here when I confirm that it works (I know it will).

[novadan67]

Well, I did this mod this weekend and it worked great. As I stated in the previous post I made a few changes to the previous mods to get the functionality that I wanted:

1. Fog light switch still functional
2. Fog lights come on with parking lights
3. Fog lights stay on with high beams

It was actually really easy. For completeness I'll list all the steps that I performed.

1. Remove the panel on the side of the fog light switch. I used a small flat screwdriver to pry the panel out (it just pops off).
2. Locate the fog light relay under the dash by your left foot. As stated before it is easy to find by listening and feeling it while you toggle the fog light switch.
3. Cut the red wire and tape off the end that does not connect to the relay. Make sure you leave enough wire connected to the relay so you can attach your own wire.
4. Attach a wire of your own to the red wire on the relay.
5. Route the wire up to your fog light switch. (tape it to the other wires under the dash so that it is secure and out of the way)
6. Splice this wire to the green/black wire at the fog light switch.
7. If you want your fogs to stay on with your brights, you need to ground the red/white wire at the switch. I did this by cutting the red/white wire and splicing it (the end leading into the switch) to the blue/white wire of the switch. This is the ground for the switch illumination.
8. Tape the red/white wire (the end going to the harness) up so there are no shorts.
9. Re-install the side panel by popping it back on.

All done! This can easily be done in less than a half hour. If you do not want your fogs to stay on with the brights, skip steps 7 and 8. It is technically illegal to have more than 4 lights on at once while on public roads, but since you will dim the brights whenever anyone is close - I don't see how anyone will be able to tell the highs/lows/fogs are all on at the same time.

[Yaggie1]

Finally got off my dead butt and did this mod. Piece of cake w/ the 1st post destructions.

[bamflee84]

thanks again for the help , nice right up. I just have another question for those who might know this. Is the wiring for the protege sedan fog lights the same as the wiring for the p5,msp 03, and mp3 fog lights. Meaning i want to stick the p5, msp03, or mp3 fog light set up onto my sedan fog light wiring. I want to know if this would work fine. Please help on this. thank you again.

[chaosProtege]

does this work for the 3?

[PrOhioStateEge5]

I have performed this mod and I must say that it does look good. However, there is a problem. I have the perimeter alarm on my P5 and when it is armed, the fogs/parking lights stay on until I start the car again!!! Whats going on here?? I followed the instructions to the letter but the car is f*&)ed up.

Update
The lights will not shut off now at all. I have tried disconnecting the battery and trying to let the system reset. However, when the power is reconnected, the horn honks continuously and the car will not start. What to do??

[rx7mazda]

it would be cool to have the doors unlock when you take the key out of the ignition =/

[Ferrari]

Well, I did this mod this weekend and it worked great. As I stated in the previous post I made a few changes to the previous mods to get the functionality that I wanted:

1. Fog light switch still functional
2. Fog lights come on with parking lights
3. Fog lights stay on with high beams

It was actually really easy. For completeness I'll list all the steps that I performed.

1. Remove the panel on the side of the fog light switch. I used a small flat screwdriver to pry the panel out (it just pops off).
2. Locate the fog light relay under the dash by your left foot. As stated before it is easy to find by listening and feeling it while you toggle the fog light switch.
3. Cut the red wire and tape off the end that does not connect to the relay. Make sure you leave enough wire connected to the relay so you can attach your own wire.
4. Attach a wire of your own to the red wire on the relay.
5. Route the wire up to your fog light switch. (tape it to the other wires under the dash so that it is secure and out of the way)
6. Splice this wire to the green/black wire at the fog light switch.
7. If you want your fogs to stay on with your brights, you need to ground the red/white wire at the switch. I did this by cutting the red/white wire and splicing it (the end leading into the switch) to the blue/white wire of the switch. This is the ground for the switch illumination.
8. Tape the red/white wire (the end going to the harness) up so there are no shorts.
9. Re-install the side panel by popping it back on.

All done! This can easily be done in less than a half hour. If you do not want your fogs to stay on with the brights, skip steps 7 and 8. It is technically illegal to have more than 4 lights on at once while on public roads, but since you will dim the brights whenever anyone is close - I don't see how anyone will be able to tell the highs/lows/fogs are all on at the same time.

Please post some pic...It would be very helpful...Thanks!!

[Ferrari]

I want to turn on and off the fog lights with the switch only. I don't want to turn on the parking lights so the fog lights have power to work with. Is there any way to do this?

[Brian MP5T]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Brian%20MP5T/WHAT%20-%20%281%29.jpg

[rx7mazda]

(lol)

[Brian MP5T]

(lol)

Well, that post was truly impossible to understand easily..

[rx7mazda]

I thought it was funny because of the randomness.

[novadan67]

Please post some pic...It would be very helpful...Thanks!!
I didn't take any pics. I thought my instructions were clear enough without them. It is really not that difficult.

If you want the fogs to come on independent of the parking lights you will have to use a dedicated power source instead of the green/black wire. I think somebody posted instructions for this a page or two before my writeup.

[Ferrari]

I didn't take any pics. I thought my instructions were clear enough without them. It is really not that difficult.

If you want the fogs to come on independent of the parking lights you will have to use a dedicated power source instead of the green/black wire. I think somebody posted instructions for this a page or two before my writeup.

Thanks! I found the writeup how to wire the fog lights to be controlled only by it switch.

[ZoomVT]

Well, I did this mod this weekend and it worked great. As I stated in the previous post I made a few changes to the previous mods to get the functionality that I wanted:

1. Fog light switch still functional
2. Fog lights come on with parking lights
3. Fog lights stay on with high beams

It was actually really easy. For completeness I'll list all the steps that I performed.

1. Remove the panel on the side of the fog light switch. I used a small flat screwdriver to pry the panel out (it just pops off).
2. Locate the fog light relay under the dash by your left foot. As stated before it is easy to find by listening and feeling it while you toggle the fog light switch.
3. Cut the red wire and tape off the end that does not connect to the relay. Make sure you leave enough wire connected to the relay so you can attach your own wire.
4. Attach a wire of your own to the red wire on the relay.
5. Route the wire up to your fog light switch. (tape it to the other wires under the dash so that it is secure and out of the way)
6. Splice this wire to the green/black wire at the fog light switch.
7. If you want your fogs to stay on with your brights, you need to ground the red/white wire at the switch. I did this by cutting the red/white wire and splicing it (the end leading into the switch) to the blue/white wire of the switch. This is the ground for the switch illumination.
8. Tape the red/white wire (the end going to the harness) up so there are no shorts.
9. Re-install the side panel by popping it back on.

All done! This can easily be done in less than a half hour. If you do not want your fogs to stay on with the brights, skip steps 7 and 8. It is technically illegal to have more than 4 lights on at once while on public roads, but since you will dim the brights whenever anyone is close - I don't see how anyone will be able to tell the highs/lows/fogs are all on at the same time.

Will any of this instructions work for the 3? I assume the wires are a bit different but the concept should be the same right?

[novadan67]

I am sure the wiring will be quite a bit different. I also did this mod on my 02 Tribute and 94 RX-7 and they were all VERY different. For example, the tribute did not require the extra grounding of the relay to keep the fogs on with the brights (the power source disabled the fogs instead of the ground). I just got under the dash with an ohm meter and figured it out for each car. Have you searched the 3 forums? I am sure somebody has done this already.

[winty87]

The method stated in post 205 is a good way to do it. it worked on my car

[Erci]

Well, I did this mod this weekend and it worked great. As I stated in the previous post I made a few changes to the previous mods to get the functionality that I wanted:

1. Fog light switch still functional
2. Fog lights come on with parking lights
3. Fog lights stay on with high beams

It was actually really easy. For completeness I'll list all the steps that I performed.

1. Remove the panel on the side of the fog light switch. I used a small flat screwdriver to pry the panel out (it just pops off).
2. Locate the fog light relay under the dash by your left foot. As stated before it is easy to find by listening and feeling it while you toggle the fog light switch.
3. Cut the red wire and tape off the end that does not connect to the relay. Make sure you leave enough wire connected to the relay so you can attach your own wire.
4. Attach a wire of your own to the red wire on the relay.
5. Route the wire up to your fog light switch. (tape it to the other wires under the dash so that it is secure and out of the way)
6. Splice this wire to the green/black wire at the fog light switch.
7. If you want your fogs to stay on with your brights, you need to ground the red/white wire at the switch. I did this by cutting the red/white wire and splicing it (the end leading into the switch) to the blue/white wire of the switch. This is the ground for the switch illumination.
8. Tape the red/white wire (the end going to the harness) up so there are no shorts.
9. Re-install the side panel by popping it back on.

All done! This can easily be done in less than a half hour. If you do not want your fogs to stay on with the brights, skip steps 7 and 8. It is technically illegal to have more than 4 lights on at once while on public roads, but since you will dim the brights whenever anyone is close - I don't see how anyone will be able to tell the highs/lows/fogs are all on at the same time.

That was almost TOO easy! Thanks :)

[NVMY03GT]

That was almost TOO easy! Thanks :)

Alright will someone PLEASE take some pictures. Actually my Wife has a '02 mazda Protege not P5, so I need some help PLEASE (deadhorse

[Erci]

Alright will someone PLEASE take some pictures. Actually my Wife has a '02 mazda Protege not P5, so I need some help PLEASE (deadhorse

Go through this whole thread. Plenty of pictures in here to make it very easy.

[NVMY03GT]

Go through this whole thread. Plenty of pictures in here to make it very easy.

They appear to be only for the P5??

[Erci]

They appear to be only for the P5??

Look at the pics for p5 and then take a look under the dash of your wife's car. I have no doubt that foglight switch is the same and there's a good chance relay is exactly the same and in the same location.

[NVMY03GT]

Look at the pics for p5 and then take a look under the dash of your wife's car. I have no doubt that foglight switch is the same and there's a good chance relay is exactly the same and in the same location.

Fog Light switch is in EXACT same location as your cars. Just didn't know if Wiring was the same or not.

[TunerzEdge]

Well, I did this mod this weekend and it worked great. As I stated in the previous post I made a few changes to the previous mods to get the functionality that I wanted:

1. Fog light switch still functional
2. Fog lights come on with parking lights
3. Fog lights stay on with high beams

It was actually really easy. For completeness I'll list all the steps that I performed.

1. Remove the panel on the side of the fog light switch. I used a small flat screwdriver to pry the panel out (it just pops off).
2. Locate the fog light relay under the dash by your left foot. As stated before it is easy to find by listening and feeling it while you toggle the fog light switch.
3. Cut the red wire and tape off the end that does not connect to the relay. Make sure you leave enough wire connected to the relay so you can attach your own wire.
4. Attach a wire of your own to the red wire on the relay.
5. Route the wire up to your fog light switch. (tape it to the other wires under the dash so that it is secure and out of the way)
6. Splice this wire to the green/black wire at the fog light switch.
7. If you want your fogs to stay on with your brights, you need to ground the red/white wire at the switch. I did this by cutting the red/white wire and splicing it (the end leading into the switch) to the blue/white wire of the switch. This is the ground for the switch illumination.
8. Tape the red/white wire (the end going to the harness) up so there are no shorts.
9. Re-install the side panel by popping it back on.

All done! This can easily be done in less than a half hour. If you do not want your fogs to stay on with the brights, skip steps 7 and 8. It is technically illegal to have more than 4 lights on at once while on public roads, but since you will dim the brights whenever anyone is close - I don't see how anyone will be able to tell the highs/lows/fogs are all on at the same time.

Im going to try this out tomorrow

[FrolessWonder]

so i rad through the whole thing, and my question wasnt answerd. When i turn my lights completely off, do the fogs turn off to? Or are they always on, even when the rest of my lights are off?

[Erci]

so i rad through the whole thing, and my question wasnt answerd. When i turn my lights completely off, do the fogs turn off to? Or are they always on, even when the rest of my lights are off?

When you turn lights completely off, fogs will go off as well.

[FrolessWonder]

awesome, thank you

[novadan67]

When you turn lights completely off, fogs will go off as well.
There was a writeup in this tread where they used a different power source which is independent of the light switch. In that case the fog lights WILL NOT turn off when you turn the lights off.

If you follow my writeup, the fogs will turn off when you turn the lights completely off.

[pb4ugoout]

i did this and now my fogs blink when i press the alarm button. normally not a problem but i have HID's in my fogs and i'm afraid the short power jolt is gonna mess up my ballasts. if i run the power to the relay to a different source will it eliminate this?

[winty87]

if you just push the button to turn them off they dont blink when you hit the lock. But that could get old really quick and easily forgettable

[FrolessWonder]

ok so i finally did it, and it looks awesome! But now when i put my left turn signal on, both turn signals blink faintly, But when i use my right, it works fine. Im thinking its a blow bulb, but is it possible i wired it wrong?

[pb4ugoout]

yea i'm also having another problem that i think is related to the fact that i'm using the 12V off of the fog light switch. but when i try to dim my cluster, it works for a sec and then the dimmer starts buzzing loudly and my hid fogs start flickering. it's pretty scary actually. would using the ignition 12V solve this problem? and is anyone else with their rewire done to the 12V at the foglight switch having the same problem with their foglights dimming when they dim the cluster?

[winty87]

mine work fine actually, the only thing that changed is when i push the button to defrost my rear window, that click got alot louder

[pb4ugoout]

bump for my question above

[Deivett]

I did it! Using Bumble G's schematic really helped. For U.S. cars it's a little different, but pretty simple. Look at his schematic and ignore the part about the DRL. Basically, there are two wires you need to work with...the red wire on the relay and the red/white wire on the switch. The red wire on the relay is where it gets the 12V to activate the relay and activate the fog lights. The red/white wire, on the switch, is where the circuit gets its ground. On U.S. cars, this wire goes through the headlight lever to make a ground when in low beam and remove the ground in high beam. So, here's what you do:

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Splice a wire to the red wire on the relay for a 12V source (I piggybacked off my cigarette lighter so the lights can be active with the ignition)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the switch
4. Splice a wire to the red/white on the switch and attach that to ground somewhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

The way I did it, my fog lights now will come on with my ignition and the switch still works to enable and disable. The lights work independent of the conditions of the headlights. If you want to go even further, you can try to find a power source to tap into for the red wire on the relay that only provides power when the engine is running, but this way was pretty simple and foolproof. The only thing you need to remember with the way I did it is that if the key is on (in acc, on) the fog lights will be on if the switch is on.

Hope this helps anyone wanting to do it.

Andy



I just did my fog lights always on as per reply of Bumble G's and drew72ca's method and works fine, my protege 5 is a US spec.The only thing I did different was take the 12V source of the dim light switch besides the fog lights switch. I tap the red wire of the relay to the green/black wire of the dim switch, so the fog lights will have power when the parking lights are on and you will not leave them on when getting out of the car because of the damn buzz they make when lights are on. The best of all is that the fog lights switch still works and you can shut down them from that switch too. Also when I arm or disarm the alarm they blink, great look too for the alarm. Just 15 Minutes of work and for free......
Thanks a lot for theses guys. Keep it up...
Deivett

[Mick]

Wow, this is the first time i have seen this "how-to"

I hate to be the bad guy, but i dont recomend anyone do this mod. As an avid road and mountain biker, i can say that encountering sombody on the road at night with fog lights on is not far from having brights on. We get blinded by these lights very easily.

[samm5149]

I did it! Using Bumble G's schematic really helped. For U.S. cars it's a little different, but pretty simple. Look at his schematic and ignore the part about the DRL. Basically, there are two wires you need to work with...the red wire on the relay and the red/white wire on the switch. The red wire on the relay is where it gets the 12V to activate the relay and activate the fog lights. The red/white wire, on the switch, is where the circuit gets its ground. On U.S. cars, this wire goes through the headlight lever to make a ground when in low beam and remove the ground in high beam. So, here's what you do:

1. Cut the red wire on the relay
2. Splice a wire to the red wire on the relay for a 12V source (I piggybacked off my cigarette lighter so the lights can be active with the ignition)
3. Cut the red/white wire on the switch
4. Splice a wire to the red/white on the switch and attach that to ground somewhere.
5. Tape off, insulate, etc the loose red wire you cut from the relay and the loose red/white wire you cut from the switch.

The way I did it, my fog lights now will come on with my ignition and the switch still works to enable and disable. The lights work independent of the conditions of the headlights. If you want to go even further, you can try to find a power source to tap into for the red wire on the relay that only provides power when the engine is running, but this way was pretty simple and foolproof. The only thing you need to remember with the way I did it is that if the key is on (in acc, on) the fog lights will be on if the switch is on.

Hope this helps anyone wanting to do it.

Andy


i did all that and some how mine didn't work.......i cut the red from the relay...spliced it over to the 12V part of the cigarrette lighter and grounded the red/white of the plug and it doesn't work...HELP!!!!!

[wildo]

I just did this mod using the steps on post 151. Very nice... (and for those who are too lazy to read the rest of this thread- yes, the switch still works)

[FrolessWonder]

i tried this again, we'll see if i get the same problem i did before. I hope not cause it looks sooo good.

[~JoJo~]

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[njaremka]

so, i did the mod and now my cruise control doesn't work if the lights are on. the cruise control works fine as long as the lights are off. but, as soon as i turn the lights on, the cruise control stops working. anyone have any thoughts?

[ChicagoKid]

Will this work on a 2006 Mazdaspeed6?? If yes, the same instructions?

Thx.

[zumzumzoom03]

I just bought a MSP an '03 not to long ago and I believe the guy did this mod. THe only issue I have is when I hit the keyless entry to lock the doors the lights come on and stay on. Also since I have a turbo timer I can not lock the doors till the car shuts down. Anybody have any solutions to any of my problems. Thanks

[wildo]

Also since I have a turbo timer I can not lock the doors till the car shuts down. Anybody have any solutions to any of my problems.

Yep. it is because the keyless entry system is deactivated when the car is on. You might try this mod:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2578493&postcount=12

Although I am not totally sure if it will work- not sure how a turbo timer is wired to keep the car on... It is worth a shot though.

[leetpcguy]

I tried to wire my fogs using the instructions on page 12. Doing so caused my parking lights, gauge lights, and rear night time running lights to not work. I reverted back to stock and the above items still do not work. I think i must have fried a fuse or relay or something.

Can some of you wiring guru's please help me figure out why my parking lights, cluster, and night time running lights no longer work.

Any help is needed. Thanks

[leetpcguy]

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[wildo]

you may have shorted something and blown a fuse. have you tried checking fuses? Also- have you tried undoing whatever mod you made and seeing if lights return?

[KronixKid22]

Gotta thank Crazy D for doing mine! :D

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/KronixKid22/NY%20Mazda%20Meet%20At%20Sylvan%20Beach%20July%202 8th/FogLightMod.jpg

[socommatthews]

works awsome.litterally took me less than 5 min. i love this place.(humpleg)

[leetpcguy]

i eventully got it working. didn;t read the directions carefully enough lol. RTFM

[laserblueP5]

Here is what i did: cut the red/black wire, Ground the end that comes from the switch and cut the blue wire from the switch. What this does is you can have the fogs on low or high beam , they still work with the lights on only but i dond't see the point of having them on without the lights.

[Crazy D]

Here is what i did: cut the red/black wire, Ground the end that comes from the switch and cut the blue wire from the switch. What this does is you can have the fogs on low or high beam , they still work with the lights on only but i dond't see the point of having them on without the lights.


Then what was the point of you doing this ? (boom03)

[redman3170]

I have a 1992 mazda 929 and I would like to know if this mod works for my car?

[Tasty]

Finally did the mod today. Easy, and looks good.

[dnale]

I tried it today and it didn't work. It turned my headlights on instead of the fogs. I connected to the right wires (red at the black block and green/black at the switch.) What could have been wired wrong? Is the green/black for sure the wire I want? There is a green/blue coming out of the switch.

[nk2a]

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[musiclikscreams]

easiest freakin mod. took no time at all. if you have little to no electronics experience (like me) this will make you feel a lot better about yourself haha.

[wyobound05]

hey everyone asking about the fogs and highbeams on at the same time. im not sure if its mentioned in the so many pages of posts cause truthfully i dont have the time to read it all right now but finding a way to have fogs and highbeams on at the same time may be a bad idea for some of you guys. check your local laws, im not sure about other states but i know for a fact in pa that is 100% illegal. I just did an inspection on a car that had aftermarket fogs hooked up to a manual switch and that is also illegal here, I had to fail him, until he takes that switch out noone in pa is allowed to pass him. your fogs must turn off automatically when the highbeams are active, too much candle power.

[MonkeyBone]

Damn this is tricky...I want to run with NO lights on daytime but when I release the handbrake...I have freakin' day lights on!!

Anyone knows how to cut them off?

N.B. I own a canadian P5 :D

[MonkeyBone]

Pretty easy with Bumble G techs :)
All the shematics and description, an easy how to when you search a bit!