How To: HKS type 0 Install

[yellerandahalf]

HKS Type 0 Turbo Timer Install

Disclaimer: all the usual crap, not my fault if you mess up.

This will detail the installation of an HKS type 0 Turbo Timer in the MAZDASPEED PROTÉGÉ.

Materials:
-spade or bullet connectors
-5-10 wire splicer thingies
-crimper/wire stripper/cutter combo tool
-10mm socket, drive, and extensions
-knife
-some @18 awg wire
-voltmeter/ multimeter

Procedure:
1. Cut off all of the connectors on the TT wires except for the bullet connector on the grey wire. Strip @ 1 cm of insulation off of each of the ends of these wires, and install male bullet/spade connectors.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pd9efae41729e3bf80c78637e829d02c4/fabe3c22.jpg
2. drill yourself a hole and insert wires as shown
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3. Go under the dash and look up the steering column. You will see the ignition key cylinder. You will also see the wires that come out of it and lead down to a very reachable spot. Use your voltmeter and your knife (to cut a bit of insulation off) To test the wires.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p1bf477f9e0b0a441a79b78bb1f46fb83/fabe3bd7.jpg
a. You should see 2 red wires, 2 blue wires, a black/white, and a black/something else.
b. Test one of the red wires. If you get 12V with the key not in the ignition, use some wire and a splicing thingy to splice into that wire, going to the red wire from the TT. If you don’t, try the other one. You only need about 12” of wire, so go ahead and cut about 12”.
c. Test the black/white wire with the key in the on position. If it gets 12V or so, splice into this one with the Black/white wire, going to blue on the TT. If not, try the other one. Again, about 12” is needed.
d. Splice into the blue wire, going to green on the TT. 12” again.
4. Disconnect negative battery terminal. It hurts a LOT to get shocked, especially when your head is under the dash. Haha.
5. Take off the right kickpanel of the passenger side and lift up the carpet there. Use your 10mm socket and associated hardware to remove the ECU. Don’t bother removing the plug, just follow the wires out from it for the next step.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p7a5c65a4309c0d6177c5db7140ce2bd4/fabe39ee.jpg
6. Find the purple/white wire coming out of the ECU . Splice it and run the wire behind the dash to the other side, all the way to the orange wire on the TT. You’ll need more than 12” for this one.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pcba5b78aa14aa3d8bd1a205bcd540583/fabe3a25.jpg
7. Find the grey wire with red dots that came with the TT. Open up the center console around the parking brake by inserting 2 fingers in the top of the slit(with the parking brake down) and pulling upward. Use another splice connector and some needle-nose pliers to splice into the wire coming from the parking brake switch as shown. Run this wire underneath the plastic for the center console, up to around where you spiced into the ignition wires. You shouldn’t have to cut the wire.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pe474c2b1f845839eb42b359133a2330c/fabe2b9f.jpg
8. connect the black wire from the TT to some kind of ground. A good place to do so it under the driver’s side kick panel. I was stupid and did it here. It’s harder to do, but it works.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p5f20a877454b21825081e6ac2e5deec4/fabe3ac8.jpg
9. connect everything up and go test it out!
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/p3874bb7ec9320079b9e2312ca27d810a/fabe2e40.jpg


My email, if you have any problems, or questions, is mcfly@nc.rr.com
-Matt McBride

[JDM Sam]

That looks like a silver japan spec type 1...

[pluto316]

That's the Type 0 I got, it's silver and the manual was in Japanese.. I was going to put a write up up like this but my camera battery was dead and I wanted that thing in ASAP... OOF!

[carbonkid]

Dude, awesome post!! I wish I had had this 3 weeks ago!! Oh well, thanks for your time (on behalf of the next guy).

[evilmonkeyMSP]

alarm still work? has anyone been able to get around this yet? im still waiting to install my Greddy auto TT but i want to make sure i can still use my alarm and the fact that i gotta get a friend to help cuz i suck w/ electronics

[JDM Sam]

u need a relay theres thread bout this long ago. lot more rewiring to do.

[girth]

Can a mod save these away in the "Hot-To" section? This is good info (this thread and the other "how-to" posted today by Yeller).

[122 Vega]

The alarm cannot be made to work with the TT without rewiring the factory keyless entry module. THe alarm is armed by the keyless entry, not the remote. The remote still works with out the alarm brain plugged in. I researched this extensively and do not think that it can reasonably be done.

I had originally posted a message to the contrary, however I then admitted my mistake and recanted.

Britt

[pHase1]

Hummm!!!

Looks like my writeup with pictures... Cool

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34787

[yellerandahalf]

doh! wish i had known this had existed! would have helped me out in the past...must have missed it in my search.

Originally posted by pHase1
Hummm!!!

Looks like my writeup with pictures... Cool

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34787

[carbonkid]

ADMIN/MOD,
Please correct Step 3c, and 3d. They are reversed. As correctly stated in a other posts, "Blue wire on the TT goes to black and white on the Ignition, and Green on the TT goes to Blue on the Ignition."

Mine finally works properly after making the above changes.

[LinuxRacr]

Edited. Let me know if it is correct.

[carbonkid]

Edited. Let me know if it is correct.
Looks right to me, thank you.

[Puckpimp71]

What happened to the pictures?

[Puckpimp71]

Back from the dead bump

[carbonkid]

I am not sure this is true, as I cut one wire in the factory alarm modile and now have full functionality of the alarm even while the TT is counting down. For more details on how to do this, you may want to PM BoomerGT.



The alarm cannot be made to work with the TT without rewiring the factory keyless entry module. THe alarm is armed by the keyless entry, not the remote. The remote still works with out the alarm brain plugged in. I researched this extensively and do not think that it can reasonably be done.

I had originally posted a message to the contrary, however I then admitted my mistake and recanted.

Britt

[Dexter]

Guys, my STOCK alarm arms and locks the doors fine with the HKS type 1 timer. I dont know! my alarm is so fucked up though! it didnt work for 2 months, and then it started working again, but now i can lock while the car is on....*shrugs*. i didnt cut any wires!

[TigrMsP]

Bump to fix the pics... anyone?

[Paul]

anyone wanna fix the pics?

[aftershock63]

I am not sure this is true, as I cut one wire in the factory alarm modile and now have full functionality of the alarm even while the TT is counting down. For more details on how to do this, you may want to PM BoomerGT.

Can you list how to do this?

[Paul]

i just did the install and did the red to the red. blue to black and green to blue and the car just shuts off by itself

[carbonkid]

ebrake pulled?i just did the install and did the red to the red. blue to black and green to blue and the car just shuts off by itself

[Dexter]

yeah paul you didnt answer my in your other thread. you have to connect the ebrake wire and pull the ebrake for it to count down. it will not count without having this hooked up and the brake pulled.

[Paul]

thankx guys, i got it to work now.
i had the wrong acc wire attached.
u need to use the middle blue wire

[westside mp5]

i am sorry if this is a repetative question, but i just installed mine today and it works perfectly, except for the fact that my doos unlock automatically when the engine shuts off. does ne1 know how to disable this?

[yellerandahalf]

erm that's really, really weird. perhaps you have some wires backwards?

[avarela86]

Subscrizzle for install this weekend!

[avarela86]

Ok so i didn't install it that weekend but "tried" today and failed miserably. My wires are completely different. The instructions didn't amtch my cars wiring. Either that or i used th wrong wires. TT works perfect except the car doesnt stay on. Do i HAVE to connect the RPM cable? And the Blue/red cable connects to what?

[yellerandahalf]

you don't have to connect the RPM cable, it's only if you wanna use automatic mode. You must have a bad connection from the TT to the switched power lead coming from the switch. Try and find it, and you should be good to go.

[carbonkid]

Can you list how to do this?

PM BoomerGT

[Maxx Mazda]

Sweet. I jsut got my Type-0. Does this install allow for full-auto mode? I'm assuming the wire tapped at the ECU is the RPM signal wire?

[carbonkid]

Yes, I have done it and it works great. My auto mode "counts up" based on the duration and intensity of your driving (based on the RPM ECU connection). It is worth the time of installing it not to have to ever worry about it again IMHO.

[Maxx Mazda]

Ya, I'm actually really excited about the full auto mode. How accurate is the voltage display also?

[carbonkid]

Voltmeter is VERY accurate. One less analog gauge to have up top.

[MSPDriver]

So I thought I hooked it up the way you said, and it works, but no matter how long I set it to stay on for, it only goes for 5 seconds. It'll start the countdown from 30 and it turns off at 25 everytime. I've tried it at a minute, it dies at 55 seconds, ect. Anyone know why this might happen?

[carbonkid]

So I thought I hooked it up the way you said, and it works, but no matter how long I set it to stay on for, it only goes for 5 seconds. It'll start the countdown from 30 and it turns off at 25 everytime. I've tried it at a minute, it dies at 55 seconds, ect. Anyone know why this might happen?

Is it a new TT, or did you buy it used? Not sure why it is doing that... Once I got mine wired correctly (See above), then it worked perfectly ever since. Good luck, and sorry I could not be more helpful.

[justanothermp5]

umm i just tried wiring mine up and its not working
it will come on when i turn the car on and beep and all that, it has the voltmeter too

but when i take the key out it just shuts off, also my wires were different then what the OP says, i had 1 Black/red, 1 black/blue, 1 blue, and 2 white/black
i used the black/red, the blue and the black/white that had 12 volts

im thinking maybe if i switch the blue to the black/blue then it'll work but im not sure

any input?

[Nitroholickid]

great info dude.. this is pretty useful for me. thanks.

[justanothermp5]

nobody has any answers for me?

[Maxx Mazda]

Make sure you have the e-brake wire hooked up right or it will just shut off.

[justanothermp5]

well i think i have it wired up right, i hooked up my multimeter and pulled/released the e brake and saw a change in voltage
but im not sure if that bullet connector thing is hooked up right

did ur p5 have the right color wires like the OP said?

[Maxx Mazda]

Can't remember, I did it so long ago. I think so though.