TSB's...Tech Service Bulletins on Mazda3

[taylor5]

I was wondering about our Mazda3,

There seems to be a lot of talk on Edmunds.com (another car info source where owners can post info on problems/solutions) about our brakes. Does anyone know if Mazda has launched a TSB on the brake system of our car concerning either:

1. Rear wheels showing more brake dust than the front wheels?
2. Rotors front and/or rear showing "grooves" after a few hundred miles?

Has anyone noticed this on their cars? (I know Macadonious did) I have only a few miles on mine (145) and have noticed a "mark" starting on the right front rotor. It is not a groove, but definitely a visible "line-mark".

If there is a TSB, can someone direct me to it or just direct me to Mazda's general TSB list?

Anyone got any advise or words of wisdom on this?..

I would greatly appreciate the help!

Tay

[wongpres]

No TSB's yet on this issue.

[dugrant153]

The MZ3 owners I've talked to have had them fixed at the dealership. It's a first year car, so it's not gonna be super perfect. They'll release TSBs as more problems come up, if any.

[shaggin'wagon]

i was wondering the same thing, i have had 3,4 or 5 times as much brake dust on the rear wheels opposed to the front ones,i have yet to see grooves in my brakes, hope it doesn't go that far.
but your saying the dealer are handling the situation themselves? is anyone getting a tough time from the dealerships?
shag' :cool:

[wongpres]

The only official TSB's on this car are:

- how to install license plate holders (some document stopped being distributed in '04 making these instructions part of a TSB - there isn't a problem or anything)
- moisture inside head & taillights under certain conditions (the TSB says this is normal)

Regarding the brake issue, depending on the severity, some dealers are:
- replacing pads/rotors
- machining the rotors
- doing nothing/say it's normal because of new materials being used

[rodslinger]

I've got the heavy brake dust on the rear wheels also. My car also has the ABS/EBD system so that seems to be the common denominator.

The check engine light also came on this morning. I gonna guess it's the thermostat code that others have been mentioning.

[goldwing2000]

Any published TSBs and recalls for any car from 1960-2004 can be found here:

http://www.alldata.com/recalls/index.html

There aren't any for 2004 Mazda yet (shrug)

[B_blake53]

I just got back from a 2000 mile road trip with my 3 and noticed alot of grooves on the rear rotors.....Appt with dealer on wednesday will let everyone know

[speedmaster]

I just got back from a 2000 mile road trip with my 3 and noticed alot of grooves on the rear rotors.....Appt with dealer on wednesday will let everyone know

Mine has 200 miles and showing grooves - in fact they are marks as there are no bumps of grooves, at least that my finger tips can feel.... let's keep an eye on it as I will do nothing till I feel it is getting worst or a TSB is issued.
(pullup)

[mikethuan]

Mine has 200 miles and showing grooves - in fact they are marks as there are no bumps of grooves, at least that my finger tips can feel.... let's keep an eye on it as I will do nothing till I feel it is getting worst or a TSB is issued.
(pullup)


Can ya guys please post if you have ABS or not? I'm trying to see if this is an issue only with people that have the ABS package.

[speedmaster]

Can ya guys please post if you have ABS or not? I'm trying to see if this is an issue only with people that have the ABS package.

All the packages but navigation! Yes, mine has ABS.

[speedmaster]

Can ya guys please post if you have ABS or not? I'm trying to see if this is an issue only with people that have the ABS package.

By the way they are present only in the left front disc... all others are ok. Still can't find any bump or groove with my fingertips.... keep you all posted as time passes...

[rodslinger]

Any published TSBs and recalls for any car from 1960-2004 can be found here:

http://www.alldata.com/recalls/index.html

There aren't any for 2004 Mazda yet (shrug)
They don't tell you anything in detail. Check the NHTSA website at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

[goldwing2000]

They don't tell you anything in detail. Check the NHTSA website at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm

Excellent! Thanks! (bowdown)

There still aren't any for the Mazda3, though. Only the RX8 and Tribute. (werd)

[jdribbler]

I've got the heavy brake dust on the rear wheels also. My car also has the ABS/EBD system so that seems to be the common denominator.

The check engine light also came on this morning. I gonna guess it's the thermostat code that others have been mentioning.

I don't have ABS/EBD on my brakes (base Canadian version), but I do have the excessive brake dust on the rear wheels. And it comes back in no time.

But I do have a knocking noise when I come to stop. Of course I drive a manual, and it's as I am coming to stop and I depress the clutch that I hear that thud.

Anyone else have this problem?

[hworth18]

I have excessive brake dust on my rear wheels also, and I DON'T have the ABS package..
One thing to keep in mind is that the rotors are soft steel and will groove easily.. Small grooves, not big ones, that is pretty normal..
I think the reason for the excessive dust is cheap, soft pads used on the rear of the car, but it would bring to mind what the brake bias is, because the front brakes should do 90% of the stopping with the rear taking up the slack or on hard stops.. (crazy)

[splitvizion]

I don't have the ABS package but I have tons of brake dust on my rear wheels and hardly any on the fronts. I just put on some aftermarket wheels and they will probally give some asshole bend over story about aftermarket wheels causing it. Those fucking fucks. I am still gonna call about the problem. I am also hearing/felling a slite differance from the back brakes as well. I havn't checked the rotors. We will see.

[speedmaster]

Mine has 200 miles and showing grooves - in fact they are marks as there are no bumps of grooves, at least that my finger tips can feel.... let's keep an eye on it as I will do nothing till I feel it is getting worst or a TSB is issued.
(pullup)

5000 miles now... NO ISSUES.... the grooves disappeared by themselves slowly after 2,500 and gone by 4,000. Production date is 12/03.

I have ABS and not to say that everything is perfect... I have dust all over the rear wheels.

(blah)

[SABIO]

I have 6000KM,, about 3900 miles now on my 3 month old Mazda 3 Sport GT

I have mentioned the Excessive rear brake dust to my dealer 3 times- My rear wheels go almost black in less than 2 weeks- All 3 times they have said "It's Normal" -I have ABS-

Ya right!! I have NEVER seen a car with back wheels coated black with brake dust... The front wheesl should be doing the majority of the braking

Hope everyone calls in and complains, maybe Mazda will look into it.

(could the brake proportioning be all messed up from the factory)

[taylor5]

Walking back to work the other day from lunch, I am passing a few parked vehicles and notice the brand new Volvo S40 (the one that shares the Mazda3 platform) parked on the side. Was admiring the looks of the car when I saw something interesting.....Its back wheels were "also" covered in brake dust and the front wheels were 'very' clean looking.

Then I could not help but notice a relatively new VW Golf GLS parked right next to it with the exact same problem. I had heard some VW's have that symptom and I now noticed one that did.

Maybe it is something with the types of brake pads they use these days for the rear brakes.....(dunno)

[Sir. SpeedALot]

Hope everyone calls in and complains, maybe Mazda will look into it.

Mazda (including myself) knows that "brake dust" is normal, regardless if it's on the front or rear wheels. There is absolutely nothing they will do to fix it. I just saw a $80,000+ Benz with brake dust on all 4 wheels. It's normal! I think we all need to let it go, and if it really bothers you, buy aftermarket pads. It's unfortunate, but that's the way the ball bounces sometimes.

[Mazda3ofKent]

My old MX6 had a nasty break dust problem too, but it did not bother me

[SABIO]

[QUOTE=Sir. SpeedALot] I just saw a $80,000+ Benz with brake dust on all 4 wheels. [QUOTE]

That's becuase the yuppie or old guy driving, don't care about how their car looks and can't be bothered to clean it!

[goldwing2000]

Mazda (including myself) knows that "brake dust" is normal, regardless if it's on the front or rear wheels.

Very true. Brake dust IS normal.

What's not normal is for me to wash and detail my wheels, drive to work and have a coating of brake dust on them in 20 miles, 18 of which are on the freeway with no braking taking place.

That's excessive.

It's not so much the dust the bothers me. It's the fact that so much dust in that short of a time means that my brake pads are wearing down extraordinarily fast.

[crossbow]

Man another two tsb's just came out for the 3...i think you guys actually have as many tsb's for the 3 right now, as the 6 had in the past 2 years!

Here's the new ones...

01-028/04 MAZDA SPECIAL PROGRAM (MSP05) - 2004 MAZDA3 - O2 SENSOR DTC ERROR, P2195 / P2196

APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS



2004 MAZDA3, 2.0L Engine, PZEV (Partial Zero Emission Vehicle), built from September 29, 2003 through July 2, 2004 (California Emission Regulation Applicable Model only)

VIN Range: JM1 BK**F* 41 100220 - 206392
DESCRIPTION

It is possible that the DTC for O2 sensor failure may not be displayed appropriately. The DTC P2195 (Front HO2S Signal Stuck Lean) and DTC P2196 (Front HO2S Signal Stuck Rich) may be displayed in reverse. The DTC P2195 may be displayed in case of "stuck rich" and the DTC P2196 may be displayed in case of "stuck lean".

01-029/04 2004 MAZDA3 - FUEL DELIVERY MODULE (FDM) INSTALLATION

APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS



2004 Mazda3 -) Federal specification 2.0 / 2.3L, California specification 2.3L DESCRIPTION



When replacing the fuel delivery module (FDM) for service related concerns, care must be taken during installation to maintain proper sealing. Use the following repair procedure whenever removal or replacement of the fuel pump is necessary. It will be made available in the Workshop Manual in future revisions.

09-030/04 2004 MAZDA3 - FRONT WIPERS DO NOT WIPE WELL

APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS



2004 MAZDA3 with VINs lower than JM1 BK**** 41 207550 DESCRIPTION



Some vehicles may exhibit front wipers that do not wipe well in cold weather. In cold weather, the wiper rubber hardens and its shape changes. As a result, the wipers do not fit properly on the windshield.

The pressure has been increased on the new wiper arm to correct this concern. Customers having this concern should have their vehicle repaired using the following repair procedure.

09-031/04 2004 MAZDA3 - LOOSE DOOR TRIM SCREW CAP

APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS



2004 Mazda3 DESCRIPTION



Some vehicles may have a door trim screw cap that is loose and stays open. During production, the cap may deform and will not stay closed.

To prevent tab from deforming, the shape has been changed. The screw cap is now modified and also available separately as a service part Customers having this concern should have their vehicle repaired using the following procedure.

[Micah]

It's funny to read this. I was just mentioning to a friend of mine the other day that every 3 I have seen has a ton of brake dust on the rear rims. At first - I thought people had just rotated the tires front to back and were too lazy to clean them. But after seeing every 3 on the road with rear rims darker than the front - hmm.... kinda odd.

[goldwing2000]

Crossbow, good info.

I think that FDM one may explain a lot of the purge solenoid problems.

That wiper one is definitely an issue, too. I'm going to have that one done ASAP.

I'm going to see if they'll just give me the parts for that and the door screw cap thingy. I hate having to give up my car.

[michaelyoung]

Here is a site with all of the TSB's.
http://web2.iadfw.net/theman/protegefaq/tsb/mazda3.html

[Sir. SpeedALot]

Very true. Brake dust IS normal.

What's not normal is for me to wash and detail my wheels, drive to work and have a coating of brake dust on them in 20 miles, 18 of which are on the freeway with no braking taking place.

That sucks Goldwing. Mine have brake dust but I wouldn't say it's that bad. Well hopefully Mazda will do something soon...

[goldwing2000]

That sucks Goldwing. Mine have brake dust but I wouldn't say it's that bad. Well hopefully Mazda will do something soon...

Yeah... I'm not going to hold my breath.

[joeblack]

Regarding my brake & rotor problem and how I deal with the dealership, please refer to the topic: "Brake Problem - Why don't Recall?".