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Black Majik MSP
07-22-2004, 02:18 PM
I just recently did this & got a PM asking how. I looked before & found no explanation on how to do it & not even a real How-To for taking the normal MP3/P5 bumper off.


There are a lot of screws, so keep the ones from each step separate so that you don't mix them up or lose them. Make sure that you do this carefully so that you don't strip any of the screws or scratch your paint. You should have a Phillips & flathead screwdriver along with a 10mm ratchet wrench.

1. Take off your grille (2 screws & 2 plastic pop-out screws). Use the flathead screwdriver to pop the middle of the plastic screws out & then the whole thing will come out. After you remove those 4 things, you lift up on the sides of the grille where the screws were to release the tabs & then lift up on the bottom (there are 3 points where it attachs to the bumper).

2. Remove the screws from inside the fenders (2 screws & 4 plastic pop-out screws). The screws go through the very back part of the lip & after you take them out, you will have 2 big washers fall out. These plastic screws come out by turning the middle with a Phillips screwdriver. The pop-out screws are above them (you don't have to take out the 3rd set).

3. Remove the screws that hold the sides of the bumper up (4 screws). Once you remove the screws from inside the fender, you can pull back the plastic fender guards & you will see 2 screws holding the bumper up. The 1st one is right at the edge & the 2nd is further in (hard to see at first, but just follow the seam). After you get all of these out, the bumper will pull out from underneath the headlights.

4. Remove the screws that hold the bottom part of the plastic fender guard to the bumper (6 screws). Basically in the same location as the last step, except on the bottom of the bumper.

5. Remove the last 4 screws in the bottom middle part of the bumper. The lip & the bumper each have tabs that reach in underneath the car with screws to hold them on. I think the ones for the bumper are bigger, closer to the middle, & further back.

6. Stand in front of your car & hold the bumper on each side where the grille screwed in. Gently lift up & back & the bumper should come off. You may have to pull the sides out a little to give it room. Set it down on something padded so that it doesn't get scratched.

7. With the bumper off, you can see that the lip is held on in behind the small, side mesh inserts with 3 bolts. The bolts are attached to the lip itself, but the 3 washers that go with them need to be removed.

8. The only thing still holding the lip on is double stick tape. You will have to first separate the lip on the sides of the bumper. Just go slowly & it should come off. The center is tricky because it is held on with tape & the bolts that are behind the mesh inserts. Even with the washers removed, the bolts still hold the lip on. Carefully pull the lip away to get them out & make sure not to scratch the paint on the other side once the bolts are out. It took me a few minutes to do this because you really have to push on the bolts to get the lip out.

9. Put the bumper back on your car & follow all of the steps in reverse order to reattach it. When you tighten all of the screws, make sure you don't go too far or you can easily over-torque it & strip the threads that hold the screw in. Make sure that it clips in under the headlights. If you don't align it before you tighten those 2 top screws on each side, you will be left with a big gap at the front of the fender. This should be a lot easier because the lip adds extra steps to putting it back on (getting those stupid washers in the right place). Also check to make sure that the plastic fender guard tucks in behind the bumper (you'll understand when you see it).

10. Once you have the lip off, you will probably see what I did...that you not only have the double stick tape on your bumper, but that it is also stained from having never been washed. Tear off as much of the tape as you can & then go at it with lots of Goo Gone & a plastic scraper (I used the plastic cap off the 20 oz. bottle off Goo Gone I had). This took me about 30 minutes & that's even with my past experience on previous cars. You just have to rub the Goo Gone on there with a rag, scrape the adhesive off, wipe it off, & repeat. Eventually the adhesive will look clear, but you have to feel the bumper with your finger to make sure you got it all. Once you have it all off, clean off the whole bumper with Bug & Tar Remover. This stuff is great & absolutely pwns all of the stains & other stuff on your bumper. I spent about 15 minutes doing this, but it's a lot easier than the Goo Gone.

*I had only taken my bumper off once before & I didn't have any help or instructions. Doing all of this took about 90 minutes, but I could probably do it in an hour now (there is no real way to speed up getting the adhesive off).*

ENJOY!

Black Majik MSP
07-23-2004, 08:48 AM
47 views...any comments?

C-Bass
07-23-2004, 08:57 AM
47 views...any comments?

(pics)

Nice writeup! :)

Black Majik MSP
07-23-2004, 08:59 AM
I didn't take pics because I did this at like 2AM, but I could go back & take some if it would help. I think my How-To is easy enough to follow without them though.

C-Bass
07-23-2004, 09:19 AM
I didn't take pics because I did this at like 2AM, but I could go back & take some if it would help. I think my How-To is easy enough to follow without them though.

Yeah, like I said, it's definitely a nice writeup. I had no problems following it, though that could be because I've helped take an MSP bumper off before and could visualize what you were talking about. You know the old cliche, "A picture is worth a thousand words".

Good job, though, seriously. Keep 'em coming!

Dr.Sound
07-23-2004, 09:58 AM
(pics)

Nice writeup! :)
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Dr.Sound/03.5%20Lip%20Install/03.5%20Lip%20Install2.jpg

this is what worked the best for me.
it's easy to scratch the bumper and the lip if you do the install on the ground.
plus this way it's much easier to align the bumper and the lip.

(yes, i am a genious, thank you)

azian6er
07-23-2004, 10:19 AM
why do you have 2 bumpers and lips?

Dr.Sound
07-23-2004, 10:24 AM
LMAO
it's a spare :D

but no, seriously, that's marashka's MSP. we were working on our cars that day :)

Stormtrooper77
07-23-2004, 10:33 AM
Did he remove the felt lining from under his hood? If so, why? That helps keep the heat off of the hood.

C-Bass
07-23-2004, 10:53 AM
Did he remove the felt lining from under his hood? If so, why? That helps keep the heat off of the hood.

Looks like it's still there to me. I might be seeing things though.

Notorious
07-23-2004, 11:05 AM
umm it looks there to me.

Stormtrooper77
07-23-2004, 11:33 AM
Sorry, it's still there. Just adjusted my brightness.

jflo
07-23-2004, 05:03 PM
wow, the front bumper off the 03.5 MSP w/ the lip looks SCARY just floating there. like there's no eyes and it's flying at you.

Dr.Sound
07-24-2004, 01:27 PM
lol

marashka
07-24-2004, 03:10 PM
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Dr.Sound/03.5%20Lip%20Install/03.5%20Lip%20Install2.jpg

this is what worked the best for me.
it's easy to scratch the bumper and the lip if you do the install on the ground.
plus this way it's much easier to align the bumper and the lip.

(yes, i am a genious, thank you)

genious, alright LOOOL(laugh)

jersey_emt
08-03-2004, 06:51 PM
Moved to How-To!

Black Majik MSP
08-03-2004, 07:42 PM
Thanks Jersey!

archangel571
11-27-2004, 01:32 PM
i am new to this... but exactly why would need to take the front lip off anyways?? they seem to look really nice.

C-Bass
11-28-2004, 09:53 AM
i am new to this... but exactly why would need to take the front lip off anyways?? they seem to look really nice.

Welcome to the board!

I like the look of it too, but some people prefer the look of the '03 MSP's without the lip. I've actaully considered removing or at least modifying the lip on mine to allow for the use of the factory fog lights they deleted for '03.5.

Brian MP5T
02-19-2005, 03:48 PM
Bump!

hoindawall
02-20-2005, 07:12 AM
Welcome to the board!

I like the look of it too, but some people prefer the look of the '03 MSP's without the lip. I've actaully considered removing or at least modifying the lip on mine to allow for the use of the factory fog lights they deleted for '03.5.

mmm so the 03.5 uses the exact same bumper as the 03?

archangel571
02-20-2005, 12:04 PM
correct me if i am wrong, but from the looks, the 03.5, mp5, n mp3 share the same bumper. yay! wat a bargain for the p5. lol.

Brian MP5T
02-20-2005, 12:12 PM
The P5 Front is on the MSP with a Lip attached...

anarchistchiken
01-18-2006, 02:40 PM
The P5 Front is on the MSP with a Lip attached...

To be technically correct, the MP3 (or MPS, if ya want) bumper is on the P5 and the MSP.

Anyone have an easy way to get a lip on? I might just be retarded, but I can't figure out how to get in on there.

Dr.Sound
01-18-2006, 05:46 PM
(nana)
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Dr.Sound/03.5%20Lip%20Install/03.5%20Lip%20Install2.jpg

this is what worked the best for me.
it's easy to scratch the bumper and the lip if you do the install on the ground.
plus this way it's much easier to align the bumper and the lip.

(yes, i am a genious, thank you)

nocar
08-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Is it nessecary to remove the front bumper to install a msp lip on my mp3.

exNeon
08-03-2006, 08:48 PM
for later reference.

Dr.Sound
08-04-2006, 01:43 AM
Is it nessecary to remove the front bumper to install a msp lip on my mp3.
no, but it will make it hell of a lot easier.
front bumper is not that hard to remove or put back on.

GhostMercury
03-12-2007, 02:19 AM
to take the lip off wil i have to remove the bumper. if not what would be the steps to do so. and can i use the foglight grilles even without the lip?

GhostMercury
03-12-2007, 11:55 PM
(bump)

Dr.Sound
03-13-2007, 07:03 PM
^ cant use the grills. u have to purchase the canadian grill inserts that fit MP3 and P5 front bumpers.

you can take the lip off without taking the bumper off, but it will be a pain in the ass.
easier (and faster) to take the bumper off.
u will also not run into a problem of braking things as you bend them to gain access to the bolts......if you do it without the bumper off.

LASERBLUE135
06-29-2008, 01:15 AM
Sub'n

MSPLIFE
07-06-2008, 06:16 PM
nice

justanothermp5
07-27-2008, 07:48 PM
how does the lip get attached? just clips in or what?

because i like the lip more and more i look at it
and 200 compared to 250 for the dgm lip is a plus too