How To: UDP Install [Archive]

Mad Hatter

01-12-2005, 06:59 PM

This is a very easy to do mod. Probably the easiest next to a cai.

First thing, pull the e-brake, and jack up the car. I recommend using jack stands, then remove the passenger wheel.

Next, using a 10mm socket remove the inner wheel liner(see pic1), to expose the crank pulley(pic2).

Next, using a 14mm socket loosen the 2 bolts on the P/S, oil pump pulley(just loosen, see pic3). Next turn bolt(12mm, as shown in pic4) to loosen the drive belt, when the tension is released enough, remove the belt(only loosen enough to remove).(Note you may want to use a 1/2"ratchet, with a 1/2to3/8 reducer, and then the 14mm socket to loosen the bolt as shown in the pic where the ratchet is)

Next, using the 14mm socket, loosen the bolt on the underside (again just loosen) of the alternator(see pic5), then loosen the other bolt(12mm) on the outerside of the alt(bolt a pic6), after the 2 of these are loose, turn bolt b(pic6) to loosen the drive belt, and remove(only loosen enough to remove).

Mad Hatter

01-12-2005, 07:00 PM

Next using an impact and a 21mm socket, as well as an extension, remove the bolt in the center of the crank pulley(these are pretty tight so stay on it for a minute, pic2). Remove pulley(we just rocked it back and forth, and sprayed a little WD-40 on it. see pic7).

Now your ready to install the new pulley(pic8). Reinstall the center bolt and torque to 120ftlbs(pic9). Now with an A/T, there was no way to keep the motor from turning while torquing, so we just hit it good with the impact.

Now you can install your new belts(pic10), and reverse the process to finish up. Drive belts should have just under 1/2" deflection with 22lbs of force.

Sorry for not having the pics directly in the post. Good luck!

twilightprotege

01-12-2005, 08:19 PM

moved to how-to

viVid

01-12-2005, 11:23 PM

Good write up! I didn't have an impact, so I had a friend help me out. He sat in the drivers seat with the trans in 5th gear and mashed the brakes. I was on the bolt with my 1/2" drive socket wrench and about a 3ft extension :) It was a Craftsman, so I wasn't worried about breaking it (and I didn't).

Gratefully Dead

01-12-2005, 11:56 PM

WoooHooo! Finally a guide for the UDP!

Since everyone and their uncle are buying up the RR-Racing ones lately this will definately help alot!

Antoine

01-13-2005, 05:55 AM

Cool it's up...Thanks for the contribution to this community! :D

PR5Matt

01-13-2005, 07:22 AM

Put some never sieze on the UDP bolt so that it will be easier to get off when you have to again (if that comes up).

BTW, I'll post some Dayco belt numbers when I can.

Protege52003

01-18-2005, 12:09 AM

Great write-up MH....many people will appreciate this.

-R

JCell

01-18-2005, 01:32 AM

Don't forget the anti-seize.......

90210brandon

01-19-2005, 10:56 AM

(smash) Dumb question but, what is UDP?

viVid

01-19-2005, 11:05 AM

http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/ultras.html

JCell

01-19-2005, 11:30 AM

(smash) Dumb question but, what is UDP?

Under Drive Pulley

its a pulley that drives ur accesories, like ac, alternator, and steering pump....by going with a lighter oulley, u increase engine response, but hp gains will be minimal

FSDET

01-21-2005, 01:26 PM

u think itll be easier or harder to intsall the perrin pulleys since its not under drive its just lighter

Mad Hatter

01-22-2005, 11:42 AM

u think itll be easier or harder to intsall the perrin pulleys since its not under drive its just lighter

I don't see why it would be any different. You still need to follow the same steps.

JCell

01-22-2005, 12:20 PM

the only difference between aftermarket pulleys is th ebelts they will use

DiS

01-22-2005, 06:57 PM

the only difference between aftermarket pulleys is th ebelts they will use

that and the weight, heh. You should of seen my friends underdrive pulley on a Suzuki. That shit is twice smaller than stock one!

melicha8

01-22-2005, 09:15 PM

So can you update on the size of belt used.

Mad Hatter

01-22-2005, 09:20 PM

So can you update on the size of belt used.

Used for which pulley??

illwill84

02-15-2005, 10:38 PM

another dumb question..........

Is the install the same for an auto tranny, or is it different somehow?

twilightprotege

02-15-2005, 11:02 PM

same process, but getting the pulley on and off requires an impact wrench as you cannot stop the engine from turning over by putting it into gear etc

DiS

02-16-2005, 04:52 PM

Twilight, isnt there a whole at the bottom of the tranny (referring to autos) where you can jam a screw driver to prevent the crank from turning while you crank on the pulley bolt? I think there is.....(as on other cars, hehe)

twilightprotege

02-16-2005, 09:19 PM

no idea, but it sounds logical

DiS

02-16-2005, 09:45 PM

in that case, yea twilight, hehe. As I was helping my friend installing a udp on his Suzuki Aerio (auto) thats we did. At the bottom of tranny there is a hole about 2/8 of an inch in diameter, just large enough to shove a screwdriver thourgh.

twilightprotege

02-17-2005, 05:17 AM

will have to check it out on my mate's auto 1.8

DiS

02-17-2005, 05:01 PM

(thumb)

L8R

02-18-2005, 03:12 PM

when reinstalling everything, u just do everything in reverse right? any torque specs needed? or any fine details? im not too much of a motor person, so if there is anything the directions dont include but are important to know, please tell! i will be following this exactly step by step thats y. thanks!

i am just changing my belts and found this a good write up.

melicha8

02-18-2005, 03:16 PM

So those that did install it what belt was used for the rr racing UDP

DiS

02-18-2005, 04:01 PM

torque the pulley down to 121 lbs. Make SURE you will put some anti sieze grease on the bolt for the pulley, otherwise you will need air tools next time you will be removing that bolt. Although, I used anti sieze grease and still needed air tools to get it off, luckily I was in my dad's mechanic's garage and got that bolt off within 2 seconds. Air tools Rule!!

Lord_Zath

05-05-2005, 05:22 PM

For an auto tranny, what we did is take the back end of the wheel nut remover tool (flathead end) and jam it into one of the holes between the teeth of the auto's flywheel. It stopped the crank and the flywheel's tooth did not bend at all...

Also to answer someone else's question about the Perrin pulley and belts... Since the pulley is the same size, the belt size should stay the same. So you should also be able to use the stock belts.

JCell

05-05-2005, 05:39 PM

how do u guys know that the belts r tight enough?

Mad Hatter

05-05-2005, 08:15 PM

how do u guys know that the belts r tight enough?

By feel. I believe it's 1/2" of deflection with 20lbs of force.

Lord_Zath

05-05-2005, 09:42 PM

You also won't hear squeaks in the belts. Turn the wheels fully both ways. If you hear squeaky squeak, tighten the belt that runs to the power steering pump.

Kansei

06-08-2005, 05:35 AM

Anyone here with the RR racing pulley know what belt size to use? I ordered the pulley and figured I should get the belt so I can install the pulley when it comes.

Lord_Zath

06-08-2005, 08:41 AM

Belts are Gates #s 040355, and 050446 or 050450. Last three digits are belt length whether it's Gates or another brand.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110065&page=2&pp=15

Kansei

06-08-2005, 02:38 PM

It doesn't matter whether I get the 446 or 450? Do I need both belts even though I'm only replacing that one pulley?

Lord_Zath

06-08-2005, 10:07 PM

you'll need both belts because the pulley you're replacing is the crank pulley, which runs both belts...

Kansei

06-08-2005, 10:28 PM

you'll need both belts because the pulley you're replacing is the crank pulley, which runs both belts...

Two sizes are listed for one of the belts, I'm assuming the last three digits is CM or something so that's really close in size. I just wanted to make sure, does it matter which I get?

EDIT: A few people mentioned a specific brand of belts they recommend, but would I be OK getting one from a shady place like Autozone, Pep Boys, or Advance Auto Parts? My UDP should be here any day now and I'm too impatient to wait for belts.

Lord_Zath

06-08-2005, 10:29 PM

you want one of each.

Kansei

06-08-2005, 10:33 PM

Had my rr pulley in for a few months now. Have to check my dyno charts, but the WHP and torque gains are measurable. That's "measurable," not "big."

Noticeable positive difference in throttle response and acceleration with a MT. No problems w/AC, lights, windows or any other electrical accessory.

Belts are Gates #s 040355, and 050446 or 050450. Last three digits are belt length whether it's Gates or another brand.

BTW, Rafi's selling his pulley--black only--for $148 including shipping. If you missed the GB a while back, it's still a good deal. Unorthodox is another $50 or so if color's worth it it you.

See how the last two sizes are really close in size; gramatically it looks like he is saying that you need the first size, and then pick one of the two last sizes.

Lord_Zath

06-08-2005, 10:35 PM

oic yeah. Don't worry about the last two - just get one of them. I believe length is measured in mm so 4mm will not kill you :)

Kansei

06-08-2005, 10:47 PM

Ok I'll hopefully be able to get to Autozone or somewhere tomorrow to get some belts. I'd like to get Mazda belts (I don't trust American products) but then they'd be like "oh let us see the car we'll find the belts" and they might notice mods :P

I think the package might have come today, it was shipping USPS and I got a package delivery notice so I'm going to try and get there as soon as they open tomorrow, hopefully it hasn't gone out on a truck yet.

Lord_Zath

06-08-2005, 11:37 PM

Just so you know (saw your earlier edit), I don't have Gates belts. In fact, I don't know what belts I have (bought them used from other forum member). I think you'll be fine w/most belts as long as you get the correct length...

Kansei

06-10-2005, 04:16 PM

haha don't attempt this mod without an impact wrench.. All I need to do is get that one last bolt off and I'm set but I can't get it off because it keeps spinning.

Kansei

06-10-2005, 04:17 PM

haha don't attempt this mod without an impact wrench.. All I need to do is get that one last bolt off and I'm set but I can't get it off because it keeps spinning.

Anyone know a place that rents them?

I called a few Advance Auto Part locations in my area and no one has them.

viVid

06-10-2005, 04:24 PM

Just put it in 5th gear and have someone stomp on the brakes... worked for me =)

haha don't attempt this mod without an impact wrench.. All I need to do is get that one last bolt off and I'm set but I can't get it off because it keeps spinning.

Kansei

06-10-2005, 06:16 PM

Just put it in 5th gear and have someone stomp on the brakes... worked for me =)

Electric impact wrench worked for me. Pulley is on.. and I don't notice any big gains, not that I expected any with the FS-DE. I tried keepin it low RPMs and it seemed like it pulled harder but I'll say it's just the placebo effect.

Thanks for the writeup, helped a lot.

J dragon

06-10-2005, 07:28 PM

Electric impact wrench worked for me. Pulley is on.. and I don't notice any big gains, not that I expected any with the FS-DE. I tried keepin it low RPMs and it seemed like it pulled harder but I'll say it's just the placebo effect.

Thanks for the writeup, helped a lot.

so is it worth the money you got for it do you think?...(gossip)

Kansei

06-11-2005, 09:47 AM

so is it worth the money you got for it do you think?...(gossip)

Considering I got it for 110 (the bulkbuy price) i'd say yeah.

J dragon

06-17-2005, 06:51 PM

Belts are Gates #s 040355, and 050446 or 050450. Last three digits are belt length whether it's Gates or another brand.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110065&page=2&pp=15

I just got my pulley, are you sure that size is for the regular protege Sedan, because everywhere I go like Advanced Autoparts and AutoZone...they say they don't have those size belts for the Sedan, not the P5.....

Lord_Zath

06-17-2005, 06:55 PM

there should be absolutely no difference in setup/layout of the stock pulley system between the p5 and the sedan. So I highly doubt there is any size difference...

Your engine is the 2.0 liter? Or 1.8?

Kansei

06-17-2005, 06:55 PM

I know I had a lot of trouble finding the belts in a store. I ended up at Advance Auto Parts and bought "Dayco" brand belts. I shouldn't have thrown out the packaging, I'll go check outside and see if the belts have the part number on them.

Kansei

06-17-2005, 06:59 PM

Dayco part numbers 5050450 and 5040355 are what I have installed currently with my RR-Racing UDP. Dayco is carried by the Advance Auto Parts around here.

J dragon

06-17-2005, 07:08 PM

Dayco part numbers 5050450 and 5040355 are what I have installed currently with my RR-Racing UDP. Dayco is carried by the Advance Auto Parts around here.

Thanks Appreciate it

J dragon

06-17-2005, 07:10 PM

I have the 2.0L engine

Lord_Zath

06-17-2005, 07:14 PM

ok then there shouldn't be much of a problem. Again, I bought mine used and the belts came w/it so (shrug)

Glad you got it down though. Let us know if you need anything else!

J dragon

06-29-2005, 07:03 PM

Kansei

06-29-2005, 07:55 PM

Okay last question then I will attempt the install when I get back in town next week....I got gates belt K050460 because the guy told me they were out of 450 or 446...He told me 460 would work...Do you guys recommend I use this belt or should i take it back next week and get the right size?

I think the 460 will just be a bit long, I would guess you can push the adjusters out enough to compensate.. I could be wrong though.

twilightprotege

06-29-2005, 08:28 PM

better off going the 446

ENTENSE

11-05-2005, 11:00 AM

Is the bolt a right or left handed thread? The sob wont come off with 1/2 impact. been at it for an hour. will someone please tell how the hell to get the thing off?

Lord_Zath

11-05-2005, 11:12 AM

righty tightey, lefty loosey

So turn counterclockwise.

Are you sure the crank isn't spinning? We had to jam the tire removal tool between the teeth on the auto flywheel to stop the crank from moving.

viVid

11-05-2005, 02:29 PM

Kansei

11-05-2005, 02:39 PM

Car in 5th gear, wife in car mashing on the brakes. Me with 1/2" breaker bar with 2ft extension (my jack handle). Slow, gradual pressure and it comes off pretty easy (counter-clockwise to loosen). An impact wrench won't cut it...

This sounds so much cheaper than getting an electric impact wrench and impact socket set. hmm. Now if only I had something to hold my brakes down :(

EDIT: the nice thing about the UDP install vs. a cam install is that for the UDP install, you need the impact to start. If you don't have one you can just go pick up one. With a cam install, when you realise that to get to the tensioner you need to remove the crank pulley (wtf?) the car isn't driveable. It's easy to slip the timing belt off the cam gears, not so easy the other way around.

GhostLinker

02-24-2006, 08:00 PM

A lot of people had problems with the Gates belts (squeal).
They replaced them with Gatorbacks and it's fixed !

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123613871&highlight=gatorback

Laser03pro

02-24-2006, 08:59 PM

The pulley isnt smaller for weight reasons its so the engine doesnt have to turn the acc's as much every revolution so it takes less effort to turn them all. Doh

Kansei

02-24-2006, 09:03 PM

The pulley isnt smaller for weight reasons its so the engine doesnt have to turn the acc's as much every revolution so it takes less effort to turn them all. Doh

Well that and it's lighter. The stock crank pulley is way heavy.

Lord_Zath

02-24-2006, 11:14 PM

80% of the gain from the udp is due to less weight. The rest is due to a smaller diameter/circumference.

UnNaturalinc

03-11-2006, 01:35 AM

I think I'm going to install mine tomorrow finally... had the thing sitting around for two years I think. hahaha

Kansei

03-11-2006, 05:46 AM

I think I'm going to install mine tomorrow finally... had the thing sitting around for two years I think. hahaha

! I've barely been able to contain myself knowing that my racing beat rear swaybar with new endlinks, MP3 ECU, new bushings for my front AWR motor mount, and 323 emblem are waiting for me when I drive back to college today.

You must have been really, really busy for the past two years. I'd put almost anything off to install stuff on my car, even if I lack the tools and/or knowledge to do the install (*thinks back to my intake cam install*).

Which one do you have, the RR racing or the Unorhodox Racing? I wonder if they are any different at all (size/weight).

UnNaturalinc

03-11-2006, 11:39 AM

Dude.... I have cam gears, full SR pulley kit, polished/cut valve cover (for cam gears), UDP, intake manifold/t-body spacers, brake lines, gauges, etc, etc that have been sitting around forever. And recently added some CF pieces to the pile. Yeah, that's very sad, huh?

I ended up selling an intake cam I had.

But yeah... Today is mass mod day. We are working on a 4G63 Colt (I posted pics on the pic forum a couple weeks ago), and I gotta bust some of this stuff out for this season on my car (I show and race it).

*I have Unorthodox Racing.... they're a sponsor of the car (I have the clutch and flywheel now).

sly mantis

03-14-2006, 10:18 PM

so is this a worthwhile mod for a NA car?
Is it worth the money?

Lord_Zath

03-14-2006, 10:52 PM

In a word - YES

Mad Hatter

03-15-2006, 04:52 AM

I ended up selling an intake cam I had.

Thanks again btw! Let me know if you ever want to get rid of the cam gears as well.

ke20sprinter

06-13-2006, 04:08 PM

I started a GB a few weeks ago, and I came across a problem. If you pull out your old pulley, you'll see empty space behind the pulley, and if you look at the RR-Racing UDP, the pulley is screwed to the timing wheel (teeth).

there's a little "dimple" on the bottom of the timing belt cover (right under the crank) you might need to file down that makes contact to your UDP (I think it warped from the heat I guess).

What happened was my pulley was making a ticking sound, and I had to figure out what that noise was, and it ended up being the UDP rubbing against the timing belt cover.

All in all, it's a great product. Belts arn't that much smaller than the stock belts.

I had my lights on, radio blasting, and ac running on idle...I tested the battery to make sure it's keeping a charge, and it's at 14 volts!

BTW, for those of you that don't have an impact gun, here's an easy way of taking out your pulley...

Using a ratchet with a metal pipe through the handle (cheater bar) or long breaker bar & a 21mm socket. Put it on the pulley bolt with the handle to the right (front) of the car (with the handle end touching the floor). Now crank your car with the ignition (do not start it). What happens is that the engine spins clock-wise and to remove the bolt you have to turn counter-clock-wise. So you're just using the engine to remove the bolt. (I've done this hundreds of times, it's easy to do, just make sure no one is near the ratchet/breaker bar). Also, it does not work on Hondas (or any engine that turns counter clock-wise) Hope this helps.

WiL

UnNaturalinc

06-13-2006, 04:12 PM

BTW, for those of you that don't have an impact gun, here's an easy way of taking out your pulley...

Using a ratchet with a metal pipe through the handle (cheater bar) or long breaker bar & a 21mm socket. Put it on the pulley bolt with the handle to the right (front) of the car (with the handle end touching the floor). Now crank your car with the ignition (do not start it). What happens is that the engine spins clock-wise and to remove the bolt you have to turn counter-clock-wise. So you're just using the engine to remove the bolt. (I've done this hundreds of times, it's easy to do, just make sure no one is near the ratchet/breaker bar). Also, it does not work on Hondas (or any engine that turns counter clock-wise) Hope this helps.

WiL

lol... I use to do that all the time.

Probably not a great idea, but it gets the job done.

Same sort of concept when doing suspension w/ out spring compressors. 1 foot on the spring and zip the nut off.... watch that sucker zing.

H4CK 1N5T4LL5 4 L1F3

bumpin_p5

10-08-2006, 09:19 PM

I don't know if this has been done or not yet, but I put this into a PDF. I am getting ready to install and wanted to print it out with the pictures and all so here it is for you guys and gals.

UnNaturalinc

10-09-2006, 11:27 AM

That's pretty cool....

Really dumbs it down for an easy install. :)

mazdaspeed777

05-09-2007, 07:06 PM

Does anyone know where I can get the RR-racing UDP?? They seem to be cheaper than the Unorthodox one's.

Crazee D

05-09-2007, 07:38 PM

google rr racing

http://www.rr-racing.com/

Lord_Zath

05-09-2007, 08:03 PM

mazdaspeed, sent you a PM...

mazdaspeed777

05-10-2007, 11:25 AM

mazdaspeed, sent you a PM...

Thanks again(2thumbs)

Dimitrios

05-11-2007, 08:53 AM

Does anyone know where I can get the RR-racing UDP?? They seem to be cheaper than the Unorthodox one's.

Go to http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/blems.html or http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/blowout.html and look up the pulleys for 2.0L/FSDE equipped Mazdas and Fords.

They'll add the proper timing ring for the non-distributor (i.e. Protege5) FSDE for about $10; if you don't care what color your pulley is or don't care about saving an extra .2 oz over the "new design", all the better.

For example:
Part number 020811004 + timing ring = $80.00 + 15.00 shipping for a total of $95.

Send an email to info@unorthodoxracing.com to confirm availability and lead time.

...or buy one from RR Racing.

LX_StreetGlow

05-11-2007, 01:35 PM

gonna be doing this in the next 2 weeks, alrdy ordered my pulley last week :D finally

mazdaspeed777

05-15-2007, 02:33 PM

UnNaturalinc

05-15-2007, 02:42 PM

I just got a gatorback power steering belt for my P5 to change my squeaky belt. I plan on getting a UDP later on down the road but just want to change my belt for now. Do I still need to take the stock UDP off to change just the belt or do I just need to loosen one of the bolts??

You need to get a service manual.

There is also a how-to on UDP install, you can see what it says specifically for replacing belts.

Dimitrios

05-15-2007, 02:47 PM

Do I still need to take the stock UDP off to change just the belt

No.

or do I just need to loosen one of the bolts??

Yes. Loosen the alternator and/or PS pump as necessary

mazdaspeed777

05-15-2007, 03:31 PM

No.

Yes. Loosen the alternator and/or PS pump as necessary

Thanks, for the help. Thats all I needed to know

amsgator

06-23-2007, 10:22 PM

what is meant by half inch deflection? and how do you make sure the pulleys are in alignment? and how do you tighten the belts?

UnNaturalinc

06-26-2007, 12:42 PM

what is meant by half inch deflection? and how do you make sure the pulleys are in alignment? and how do you tighten the belts?

Aligning the pully? :scratcheshead:

You should really get a repair manual first and foremost. Or taking it in somewhere sounds like it'd be best.

There's adjustment screws for adjusting the betls/componets on the belt system. Just like anything and any other car. But you need to loosen the belts before you can get to the point of tightening them.

amsgator

06-26-2007, 05:35 PM

so what is the half inch deflection? i dont wanna pay someone to do it for me which is why i am asking how to adjust it. do you just loosen the screw and it moves around or what?

amsgator

06-27-2007, 04:39 PM

got my rr udp today. i think i am gonna take it somewhere to get installed, talked to someone on protegeclub and they said i probably shouldnt be doing it myself. so we'll see. how much do you think it would cost? while i'm at it i guess i can have them throw on my rear motor mount.

UnNaturalinc

06-27-2007, 05:25 PM

so what is the half inch deflection? i dont wanna pay someone to do it for me which is why i am asking how to adjust it. do you just loosen the screw and it moves around or what?

You are asking in a thread that's a How-To.... There are complete directions on here.

It's probably not more than a 2 hour job. It's simiple as all heck to do.

If these directions don't explain it well enough, you should be taking it in at that point.

amsgator

06-27-2007, 06:19 PM

yea since it defines what deflection is. right. ps, thanks for answering the question and helping. anyone else care to help?

UnNaturalinc

06-27-2007, 06:28 PM

:sigh: You are not capable of doing this install. As I said, if you are not able to use these simple directions here, you need to take it in. He even lists bolt sizes and includes pictures.

What do you think it means? Just think about it for a second.... What part would move in the said install? The pulley? Do they move? no... What else could it be? The belts perhaps? Yes......

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deflection

I don't mean to sound like a total ass (well, actually I kinda do) but working on cars requires at least a little bit of common sense and thinking on your own. And if things do not come naturally to you on how things work and just general mechanics.... at the very least you should be buying a service manual as I've already said. They're like $20.

Lord_Zath

06-27-2007, 09:25 PM

Paying to do it will prolly cost around 120

i12drivemyMP5

06-29-2007, 11:27 AM

hm...explained to death are they? i am still YET to have seen a post explaining the deflection, what it is and how to measure it. but ok, it's explained to death. that must be why it's not posted...b/c it's dead and went to thread heaven. right? dont think soDeflection = how far the straight line of the belt from one pulley to the next can be pushed with your finger. If you can push the belt more than 1/2 an inch then tighten some more. Just tighten until no squeaking. This isn't that critical for street cars with less than 10k rpms. BTW, there is no thread heaven. Threads are aetheists.

i12drivemyMP5

06-29-2007, 12:11 PM

More nonhelpful flaming: Page 01-10B-4 & 01-10B-5 in the engine section of the service manual you mentioned having or having access to illustrates the tensioning of the belts & measuring points of deflection in great detail. Hope this helps. Good luck with your project.

whitemp5seattle

06-29-2007, 09:06 PM

How is anything ruined? The first two posts is all you need. Well, if you have any sort of normal brain function it's all you need. It's not quite that easy for some it appears. heh

Is there even a mod for this forum?

people like to add advice, tips, stories, etc after the initial how-to posts. it's best when people don't carry on conversations in how-to threads, that way the threads stay strictly "how-to." This conversation could have and should have been carried on over pm, if carried on at all. Please move your discussion to somewhere else so we can maintain the straightforwardness of the forums. It's posts like these that make people too lazy to read through all the pages of garbage and start asking questions that already have answers to them.

The way I see it: if you don't have anything helpful to say, don't say anything at all. (no)

since I am now being a hypocrite about carrying on a conversation in a how-to thread, I will stop here. :)

P.S. and to answer your mod question, if you had done a quick search on the forums you would have seen that LinuxRacr and Kooldino are both moderators of the General Tech section. :p

o.g.sk8er

07-01-2007, 03:26 PM

Lord_Zath

07-01-2007, 04:51 PM

(peep) I'm afraid to even come in here! lol! j/k

I just did this mod last week and it really is an easy mod. Took all of 30 minutes. Everything went together smoothly. I have 2 question's if I may.

1. Does anyone elses pulley whistle a little? (Not belt whine.)
2. Should I reset my ecu, or does it matter?

So far, everything feels great. Seems to have a bit better bottom end.

1. I haven't noticed a whistle. Only think is belt squealing.

2. I didn't when I did mine, but it would probably be a good idea...

Isn't it amazing how much better it pulls in 1st and 2nd?

amsgator

07-03-2007, 09:45 PM

would this suffice for the impact or does it need to be a pneumatic drill?

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&cat=Mechanics+Tools&subcat=Automotive+Specialty+Tools&pid=00947641000

i12drivemyMP5

07-03-2007, 10:17 PM

This smells just like when a woman asks if what she's wearing makes her ass look fat......................There is no right answer.

amsgator

07-04-2007, 08:13 AM

i12drivemyMP5

07-04-2007, 09:04 AM

It's a big ole drill lookin thang you put sockets on. Some is electric, otherns is run by air. Them folks at them there tar places uses um.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-impact-wrench.htm

o.g.sk8er

07-04-2007, 03:43 PM

1. I haven't noticed a whistle. Only think is belt squealing.

2. I didn't when I did mine, but it would probably be a good idea...

Isn't it amazing how much better it pulls in 1st and 2nd?
Thanks Zath. :D

So, I did reset the ecu the other day. It always seems to run like crap for the first 10 or so miles. hehe
I went for a long drive today and I'am starting to really enjoy this pulley. I did notice better pulling in 1st & 2nd Zath, but what really impressed me was the acceleration from a roll. Much nicer pull than before. I'd say this feels almost as strong when I installed my header.

car's still slow though...hehe

amsgator

07-04-2007, 10:48 PM

It's a big ole drill lookin thang you put sockets on. Some is electric, otherns is run by air. Them folks at them there tar places uses um.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-impact-wrench.htm

there are also manual impact wrenches- the link i gave. so no need for your sarcasm

Brian MP5T

07-05-2007, 04:10 AM

^ HOLY SHIT. Take it to a Mechanic! This Hurts, You will never be a gear head so stop pretending that you are actually going to do it. If you do you will break the car...

i12drivemyMP5

07-05-2007, 06:19 AM

there are also manual impact wrenches- the link i gave. so no need for your sarcasmI saw the pics in your link, hence my link to what could actually be used to complete your project. If you want to do it manually then use a big breakover bar to get it off & a "manual" or "digital" torque wrench to put it back on. I'm starting to think you aren't really even going to do this. What sarcasm, are you making fun of my accent?