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Old 01-27-2008, 12:59 AM   #1
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Exclamation Should we have concern? *Caliber SRT4 content*




Darrell Cox Racing's CSRT-4 runs 12.5 at 117Mph 349hp/393tq (SAE/5) Intake Exhaust, WGA, injecors, tune... and 407hp/460tq (SAE/5) 35 wet shot


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Old 01-27-2008, 02:22 AM   #2
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dont u guys have someone on here with similar times without nitrous?
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why is this a concern? a fast turd is still a turd at the end of the day. will it be easier to get power out of an SRT than a mazdaspeed? yes of course, its a domestic vehicle with traditional fuel injection so you're going to see alot of go fast goodies for these shitboxes right out of the gate.

does it matter? i don't think so. they can't handle worth a lick, they're uglier than dirt, they're minivan tall and made of the same grade materials inside and out as a fisher price toy from the late 80s. from that standpoint, mazdaspeed3s finish so far ahead of them in every respect its nothing to worry about.

if you are stoplight to stoplight or straight up drag racer, then i suppose yes, you have something to worry about. me personally, i think the mazdaspeed so far out classes this angle ridden heap its not even funny.
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why is this a concern? a fast turd is still a turd at the end of the day. will it be easier to get power out of an SRT than a mazdaspeed? yes of course, its a domestic vehicle with traditional fuel injection so you're going to see alot of go fast goodies for these shitboxes right out of the gate.

does it matter? i don't think so. they can't handle worth a lick, they're uglier than dirt, they're minivan tall and made of the same grade materials inside and out as a fisher price toy from the late 80s. from that standpoint, mazdaspeed3s finish so far ahead of them in every respect its nothing to worry about.

if you are stoplight to stoplight or straight up drag racer, then i suppose yes, you have something to worry about. me personally, i think the mazdaspeed so far out classes this angle ridden heap its not even funny.
Don't forget that brake lock differential, which is superior to the real thing, Dodge says. We have nothing to worry about, that ugly POS has thousands poured into it, looks like it was on slicks(had different wheels upfront), anywhere else besides the engine modability and the MS3 is superior, our engine is superior, though, way more refined.
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hahah that thing is a tub....

Its not on slicks as best as i can tell.... but certainly is running different rubber up front...probably drag radials or some chubby street tires.....

Seems to me that the biggest limiting factor on the MS3 is the injection system. Considering that turbo converted 3's can make astronomical power... has anyone considered converting back to a conventional injection system? or is this just so unfeasable as to make it stupid?
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why is this a concern? a fast turd is still a turd at the end of the day. will it be easier to get power out of an SRT than a mazdaspeed? yes of course, its a domestic vehicle with traditional fuel injection so you're going to see alot of go fast goodies for these shitboxes right out of the gate.

does it matter? i don't think so. they can't handle worth a lick, they're uglier than dirt, they're minivan tall and made of the same grade materials inside and out as a fisher price toy from the late 80s. from that standpoint, mazdaspeed3s finish so far ahead of them in every respect its nothing to worry about.

if you are stoplight to stoplight or straight up drag racer, then i suppose yes, you have something to worry about. me personally, i think the mazdaspeed so far out classes this angle ridden heap its not even funny.
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why is this a concern? a fast turd is still a turd at the end of the day. will it be easier to get power out of an SRT than a mazdaspeed? yes of course, its a domestic vehicle with traditional fuel injection so you're going to see alot of go fast goodies for these shitboxes right out of the gate.

does it matter? i don't think so. they can't handle worth a lick, they're uglier than dirt, they're minivan tall and made of the same grade materials inside and out as a fisher price toy from the late 80s. from that standpoint, mazdaspeed3s finish so far ahead of them in every respect its nothing to worry about.

if you are stoplight to stoplight or straight up drag racer, then i suppose yes, you have something to worry about. me personally, i think the mazdaspeed so far out classes this angle ridden heap its not even funny.

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why is this a concern? a fast turd is still a turd at the end of the day. will it be easier to get power out of an SRT than a mazdaspeed? yes of course, its a domestic vehicle with traditional fuel injection so you're going to see alot of go fast goodies for these shitboxes right out of the gate.

does it matter? i don't think so. they can't handle worth a lick, they're uglier than dirt, they're minivan tall and made of the same grade materials inside and out as a fisher price toy from the late 80s. from that standpoint, mazdaspeed3s finish so far ahead of them in every respect its nothing to worry about.

if you are stoplight to stoplight or straight up drag racer, then i suppose yes, you have something to worry about. me personally, i think the mazdaspeed so far out classes this angle ridden heap its not even funny.
Well said! The engine is great, it's everything around it that's the problem.
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I saw the SRT4 Caliber in person yesterday for the first time. I think it looks better than the MS3. I didn't test drive it. But all in all it's a sharp looking ride. I love the big honking intercooler you can see through the grill. It's flippin bad assed.
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I saw the SRT4 Caliber in person yesterday for the first time. I think it looks better than the MS3. I didn't test drive it. But all in all it's a sharp looking ride. I love the big honking intercooler you can see through the grill. It's flippin bad assed.
Well it will appeal to some people, just like the aztec or the older scion xb.
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how dare you compare me to someone who likes the Aztec! heh
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how dare you compare me to someone who likes the Aztec! heh
haha, if you like the looks of the Caliber you might as well like the Aztec. To me it looks like the bastard child of an Aztec that took it up the tailpipe from a horny Dodge ram.
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Its still a chrysler product. Being a mechanic i deal with the differences in quality materials and workmanship all day. There is not comparing the two, you wanna compare apples to apples compare it to a pt cruiser, or an big rig because its just as ugly as both. Mopar=More problems not more power
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