zoom zoom Boom????

djza2u1 · 08-31-2009, 06:05 PM

Why do i keep hearing about people blowing there motor up. Per talking to ken he said that anything over 350hp will need rods, so i done see any reason other then people going crazy and not upgrading to forged internals.
can anyone else explain this?

Speedkid · 08-31-2009, 06:10 PM

There are some people that are not even close to 350hp and blown there motor.

djza2u1 · 08-31-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedkid

There are some people that are not even close to 350hp and blown there motor.

That is what i was asking, why are they?

Metallic36 · 08-31-2009, 06:15 PM

Reasons for Booming:

Adding numerous mods that the ECU doesn't know what to do with.
Not having any EMS for the mods, no tune or a bad tune.
Upping the boost too much, weak internals.
Driving "energetically" with all the above.
Not being knowledgeable about your car's capabilities and needs.
Thinking you don't need to build your car, so the build is not considered until the boom actually happens.

ms6acton · 08-31-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallic36

Reasons for Booming:

Adding numerous mods that the ECU doesn't know what to do with.
Not having any EMS for the mods, no tune or a bad tune.
Upping the boost too much, weak internals.
Driving "energetically" with all the above.
Not being knowledgeable about your car's capabilities and needs.
Thinking you don't need to build your car, so the build is not considered until the boom actually happens.

well said madam

Speedkid · 08-31-2009, 06:25 PM

My friend blow his speed 6 up because of a fuel pump but every thing else she told you already and somebody said something about boosting under 3k on the forums somewhere.

ms6acton · 08-31-2009, 06:42 PM

yea dont load your engine up too much

Darth Vader · 08-31-2009, 06:50 PM

Jeez, just do the math, there's 10,000 Speeds a year in the US, There are ~30 "registered" blowups on that other Mazda site, FROM ALL CAUSES, That's 1 in 1000 from every kind of idiocy this car is heir to.

I think NASIOC has over 80 blowups recorded on their site for just the 08 Gen WRX.

Sucks to be one of the 1 in a thousand but, the chances of you blowing up are pretty slight, especially if you're somewhat smart about how you do things.

ms6acton · 08-31-2009, 06:58 PM

i was just going to post about how only people that blow up their motors come online to talk about it. but u worded it much better than i could have lol

drgoodwrench · 08-31-2009, 07:10 PM

It's all a matter of Timing...

Having INTENTIONALLY killed 5 (that's right FIVE) 1.6 liter crate motors, fresh from Mazda Motorsports, while developing the Super Spec Miata specifications, I can tell you without a doubt the number one killer of engines is TOO MUCH TIMING under load. Guaranteed detonation!
Blows the ring lands to pieces everytime.
The number TWO cause- running out of fuel under boost- grenades spark plug insulators which chew up cylinders and valves seats.
Yes we did all this on purpose to "find" the limits of reliability. Absolutely abused these motors and am thoroughly impressed with just how much they tolerate

Speedkid · 08-31-2009, 07:10 PM

It work out good for my friend with the speed 6 and now he got a pg motor and all bolt ons with a gt35 turbo and soon to be tuned.

RC08MS3 · 08-31-2009, 07:15 PM

but will still be slow

ms6acton · 08-31-2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC08MS3

but will still be slow

hahah these poor motors just cant go that fast... yet.. common dcr!!

Speedkid · 08-31-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC08MS3

but will still be slow

lol.

dandan2 · 08-31-2009, 07:57 PM

speed 6's alreant slow at all! try having a full bolt on msp with a map tune and still getting raped from a 60 punch on the highway! lol

08-31-2009, 06:05 PM	#1
djza2u1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oswego IL Posts: 531	zoom zoom Boom???? Why do i keep hearing about people blowing there motor up. Per talking to ken he said that anything over 350hp will need rods, so i done see any reason other then people going crazy and not upgrading to forged internals. can anyone else explain this? __________________

08-31-2009, 06:10 PM	#2
Speedkid Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 1,066	There are some people that are not even close to 350hp and blown there motor. __________________ TR Mazdaspeed 3 CPe sri,turbo inlet,motor mount,hks bov,fuel pump,standback with pnp and flash/Greddy tt/deleted resonaotors/SU solid shifter spacers/Boost gauge/35% Tint/Turboxs DP,RP and FMIC/cobb shifter weight/methanol/BSD kit with baffle/PG manifold V3/Tuned by P3

08-31-2009, 06:25 PM	#6
Speedkid Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 1,066	My friend blow his speed 6 up because of a fuel pump but every thing else she told you already and somebody said something about boosting under 3k on the forums somewhere. __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'. Last edited by Speedkid; 08-31-2009 at 06:55 PM.

08-31-2009, 06:42 PM	#7
ms6acton WAAAAAA Tingg Donated: $10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Acton Ontario Posts: 2,278	yea dont load your engine up too much __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

08-31-2009, 06:50 PM	#8
Darth Vader Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Outer Mongolia Posts: 842	Jeez, just do the math, there's 10,000 Speeds a year in the US, There are ~30 "registered" blowups on that other Mazda site, FROM ALL CAUSES, That's 1 in 1000 from every kind of idiocy this car is heir to. I think NASIOC has over 80 blowups recorded on their site for just the 08 Gen WRX. Sucks to be one of the 1 in a thousand but, the chances of you blowing up are pretty slight, especially if you're somewhat smart about how you do things. __________________

08-31-2009, 06:15 PM	#4
Metallic36 MSP Chick :) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lula, GA Posts: 3,153	Reasons for Booming: Adding numerous mods that the ECU doesn't know what to do with. Not having any EMS for the mods, no tune or a bad tune. Upping the boost too much, weak internals. Driving "energetically" with all the above. Not being knowledgeable about your car's capabilities and needs. Thinking you don't need to build your car, so the build is not considered until the boom actually happens.

08-31-2009, 06:58 PM	#9
ms6acton WAAAAAA Tingg Donated: $10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Acton Ontario Posts: 2,278	i was just going to post about how only people that blow up their motors come online to talk about it. but u worded it much better than i could have lol __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

08-31-2009, 07:10 PM	#10
drgoodwrench Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6	Number one reason for killing engines... It's all a matter of Timing... Having INTENTIONALLY killed 5 (that's right FIVE) 1.6 liter crate motors, fresh from Mazda Motorsports, while developing the Super Spec Miata specifications, I can tell you without a doubt the number one killer of engines is TOO MUCH TIMING under load. Guaranteed detonation! Blows the ring lands to pieces everytime. The number TWO cause- running out of fuel under boost- grenades spark plug insulators which chew up cylinders and valves seats. Yes we did all this on purpose to "find" the limits of reliability. Absolutely abused these motors and am thoroughly impressed with just how much they tolerate

08-31-2009, 07:15 PM	#12
RC08MS3 woooooompshhhhh Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colonial Heights, VA Posts: 754	but will still be slow __________________ Corksport FMIC, CPE Inlet, HKS SSQV ,ITV-22's, StainlessWorks Catted 3" DP, HKS CBE, Cp-E HPFP, Cobb AP, TWM Shifter w/ Bushings, Mounts all the way around

08-31-2009, 07:57 PM	#15
dandan2 slotege Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: euless tx Posts: 1,816	speed 6's alreant slow at all! try having a full bolt on msp with a map tune and still getting raped from a 60 punch on the highway! lol __________________ performance: mam ceramic coated tubular manifold, injen cai, vtcs deleted ported and polished intake manifold, perrin front mount intercooler, hks ssqv ver.2, awr front and rear motor mounts, ghl downpipe, greddy catback w/apexi 4in n1 muffler, unichip piggyback, pwr aluminum radiator, spal slim fans, maf relocation, greddy ebc, greddy turbo timer, perrin fuel rail, exedy stage 1 clutch, fidanza lightweight flywheel, more to come! exterior: gemini carbon fiber hood and vis carbon fiber trunk, evolution 8 spoiler, bc2 rear bumper and side skirts, autoexe front lip, dg carbon fiber grille,tcs dry carbon mirrors, gunmetal adr cyphers wrapped in kuhmo exta 215 45 17 tires, custom retrofit projector headlights, 10000k headlights, 12000k fogs. interior: boss audio double din, glowshift a/f, volt, and boost guage in tripple a piller pod,innovate lc1 wideband, memphis mojo 12in sub, dave b gauge rings, ralco rz short shifter, shifter bushings, carbon fiber shift boot, more to come!

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