---> *EVERYTHING* ECU fix/comments/thoughts

pdhaudio83 · 09-11-2003, 10:34 PM

Please, everything about updated ECU goes here.

pdhaudio83 · 09-11-2003, 10:42 PM

Where to get it done:
California
John Hine Mazda
San Diego CA
(858) 297-4251

FLORIDA
Cory Fairbanks Mazda
Longwood, FL
407-339-4777
bigmazda.com

Georgia
Performance mazda
4285 highway 78 lilburn,GA 30047
678-252-3200
ask for Sar

Kentucky
Blue Grass Mazda
Louisville , KY
502-895-5295
Talk to Carl in the Mazda service department
Posted by Wiggles6983

Massachusetts
Wellesely Mazda
Wellesely, MA
781-235-6000

Minnesota
Morrie's Mazda
Minnetonka, MN
952-544-1999
Ask for Jay in service.

Missouri
John Bommarito Mazda
4190 N. Service Rd.
St Peters, MO 63376
(636) 928-2300

[B]Montana
Flanagan's Mazda/Jeep
1700 Stephens
Missoula, MT 59801
(406) 721-1381 ; (800) 543-7051[B]

Jake Sweeney Mazda
33 W. Kemper Rd.
Cincinnati, Ohio
(513)-782-2826
Ask for Rhonda Bradford (Service Manager).

Oregon
Ron Tonkin Mazda - Portland, Or
503-257-2420
Ask for Gary (service Manager), BoB(service Grunt) or Ron (MSP Tech)
www.tonkin.com

Rhode Island
Mazda of Newport
1199 West Main Road
Middletown, RI 02842
401-846-0999
Ask for Angelo

South Carolina
John Finger Mazda
2512 Laurens Road (Across from Best Buy)
Greenville, SC 29607
864-458-3500
Talk to Stan Shockley in service dept.

Virginia
Brown's Fairfax Mazda
Fairfax, VA
703-385-8170
www.fairfaxmazda.com

Wisconsin
Russ Darrow Mazda
3520 S 108th St
Milwaukee
414-329-5800

nrcooled · 09-11-2003, 10:52 PM

Brown's Mazda in Virginia doesn't know about the flash. I had to give them the scoop today. So I just took it to Rosenthal Mazda. They were super polite and got it done quickly.

If it weren't for the leaky cooland hose they have to replace I would have the MSP in my driveway

FBI14 · 09-11-2003, 10:56 PM

Delaware

Nucar Connection
New Castle, DE
800-486-6370
John Stidham

DiscreetSpeed · 09-11-2003, 11:09 PM

flashed running 10psi, cars response is quicker and pulls harder.

FBI14 · 09-11-2003, 11:12 PM

Heres some Info from the other Threads so people dont have to go crazy looking through them ( All this Info was from Chojin)

The file for the Mazdaspeed Protege is QOAP4C0.

Everyone-

I can confirm that this PCM Update is now available for download by any Mazda Dealer Service Dept. Manager.

Jeff Haas Mazda in Houston, TX will have this Upate loaded onto their WDS by Friday and ready for re-flashing by Saturday. If you would like to come in on Saturday, call on Friday to set up an appointment with the Service Dept at 713-932-6004.

Enjoy.

-Shawn

Everyone-

Now that the Update is official, I can elaborate on what was done.

Here is a dyno comparison of the Stock PCM vs. the Prototype PCM I tested with the Update:

The Stock PCM is the RED Line and the Prototype PCM is the BLUE Line.

Please note:
1. I have the Injen CAI, Protosport 2.25" DP, and JIC Magic SUS 60mm Exhaust.
2. I'm running STOCK BOOST.

[IMG]/members/FBI14/stock_vs_prototype.jpg[/IMG]

The car is in Closed Loop from 2500 to 3300 RPM, where it then goes into Open Loop until Redline.

As you can see, the Air/Fuel Ratios for the two are almost identical until 4900 RPM; meaning the Mazda Engineers only slightly changed the fuel map from 4900 RPM to Redline.

So, what about the major differences in the 3300-5100 RPM range? That is where we all feel the hesitation and bogging, right? Especially after the engine coolant temperature gets into the "heat soak" range.

Well, the Mazda Engineers adjusted the TIMING map (ADVANCED TIMING) in this RPM range quite a bit to achieve the nice smooth HP and TQ curves you see in BLUE.

That is the answer to everyones question of "What exactly did they do?"

Driving around town, the difference between the Stock and Prototype was Night and Day. You WILL definitely feel the power difference shown on the Dyno Sheet.

Now to all of you with increased boost levels: bring it down to 9 PSI MAX (including spikes) or you will get knock.

Cheers.

-Shawn

msp_driver · 09-12-2003, 08:59 AM

Munday Mazda's service manager is sick so no one knows what goin on so
For the Houston area:
MAZDA OF KINGWOOD
22565 EASTEX FREEWAY
KINGWOOD, TEXAS
77339
Phone: 281-312-6200

FunSpeed · 09-12-2003, 08:59 AM

Just got back from the dealer where I got reflahsed. The flash took about 1 hour to complete and there is a difference. I live about 20 mins. from the dealer and in that time frame, I noticed the gains. From about 3000 rpm to redline, the car has more power. You step on the throttle and it goes, no more hesitation. I hope that this reflash helps everyone and that it lasts.

Kevin

msp_driver · 09-12-2003, 08:59 AM

I got mine scheduled at 1:00 today

StlMSP · 09-12-2003, 10:18 AM

Here are 2 more for St. Louis:

Bommarito Mazda West
15736 Manchester Road
Ellisville, MO 63011
Phone: (636) 391-8822
Fax: (636) 227-9340

Bommarito Mazda South
6127 South Lindbergh Blvd.
St. Louis, MO 63123
Phone: (314) 487-9800
Fax: (314) 487-3855

Good luck everyone!!!!!

Mike

FunkyCold5 · 09-12-2003, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nrcooled
Brown's Mazda in Virginia doesn't know about the flash. I had to give them the scoop today. So I just took it to Rosenthal Mazda. They were super polite and got it done quickly.

If it weren't for the leaky cooland hose they have to replace I would have the MSP in my driveway

Nrcooled,

Only one person knows about it, Greg hehehe Green Team. Funnylittlman and Saabaadoo got their appt next tuesday and I'm trying to get mine done too. How do you think Rosenthals' service compare to Brown's? Will talk more during our meet at Burke Lake. Peace.

CarlM2 · 09-12-2003, 11:00 AM

As of today, Millenium Mazda in Durham, NC claims that the update is not available to them. They claim to have tried to find it but, it wasn't where they looked. Oh well. Maybe one day.

servoeyes · 09-12-2003, 11:15 AM

I posted in the CT section regarding local dealers, but my crew has dropped the ball on it, so here's our local list as of now:

Connecticut
Modern Mazda
Thomaston, CT

Morande Mazda
Manchester, CT

Dworkin Mazda
Derby, CT

Hopefully my local peeps will drop some more knowledge as it comes along.

122 Vega · 09-12-2003, 01:15 PM

Just so you all know, there is a sticker inside the engine compartment showing the flash has been done. They will open your hood.

Britt

OrngSpd03 · 09-12-2003, 02:04 PM

Got my ECU upgrad today at Bommirto mazda in st louis, MO. The difference is night and day. also got my say bar bussings fixed, no more clunking.

09-11-2003, 10:34 PM	#1
pdhaudio83 Banned Donated: $10 Forum Crybaby 2001 Mazda MP3 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Posts: 11,132	*---> EVERYTHING* ECU fix/comments/thoughts** Please, everything about updated ECU goes here.

09-11-2003, 10:52 PM	#3
nrcooled I got stroked beouches!!! 2.3L Evolution VIII with tons of mods Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: under an Evo Posts: 1,191	Brown's Mazda in Virginia doesn't know about the flash. I had to give them the scoop today. So I just took it to Rosenthal Mazda. They were super polite and got it done quickly. If it weren't for the leaky cooland hose they have to replace I would have the MSP in my driveway __________________ '94 EG Hatch '02 R6 '03 Evolution VIII AWD-Making bad drivers look good since 1968

09-11-2003, 10:56 PM	#4
FBI14 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Moorestown, NJ Posts: 1,681	Delaware Nucar Connection New Castle, DE 800-486-6370 John Stidham __________________ For Sale: Unichip MSP Sub/Amp rack

09-11-2003, 11:09 PM	#5
DiscreetSpeed CitizenPro = Retired 03 Saab 9-3 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 4,473	flashed running 10psi, cars response is quicker and pulls harder. __________________ Falling inline is for bitch's Get out the way. Houston - Need your LSD welded? Maybe i can help.

09-11-2003, 11:12 PM	#6
FBI14 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Moorestown, NJ Posts: 1,681	Info From other Threads Heres some Info from the other Threads so people dont have to go crazy looking through them ( All this Info was from Chojin) The file for the Mazdaspeed Protege is QOAP4C0. Everyone- I can confirm that this PCM Update is now available for download by any Mazda Dealer Service Dept. Manager. Jeff Haas Mazda in Houston, TX will have this Upate loaded onto their WDS by Friday and ready for re-flashing by Saturday. If you would like to come in on Saturday, call on Friday to set up an appointment with the Service Dept at 713-932-6004. Enjoy. -Shawn Everyone- Now that the Update is official, I can elaborate on what was done. Here is a dyno comparison of the Stock PCM vs. the Prototype PCM I tested with the Update: The Stock PCM is the RED Line and the Prototype PCM is the BLUE Line. Please note: 1. I have the Injen CAI, Protosport 2.25" DP, and JIC Magic SUS 60mm Exhaust. 2. I'm running STOCK BOOST. [IMG]/members/FBI14/stock_vs_prototype.jpg[/IMG] The car is in Closed Loop from 2500 to 3300 RPM, where it then goes into Open Loop until Redline. As you can see, the Air/Fuel Ratios for the two are almost identical until 4900 RPM; meaning the Mazda Engineers only slightly changed the fuel map from 4900 RPM to Redline. So, what about the major differences in the 3300-5100 RPM range? That is where we all feel the hesitation and bogging, right? Especially after the engine coolant temperature gets into the "heat soak" range. Well, the Mazda Engineers adjusted the TIMING map (ADVANCED TIMING) in this RPM range quite a bit to achieve the nice smooth HP and TQ curves you see in BLUE. That is the answer to everyones question of "What exactly did they do?" Driving around town, the difference between the Stock and Prototype was Night and Day. You WILL definitely feel the power difference shown on the Dyno Sheet. Now to all of you with increased boost levels: bring it down to 9 PSI MAX (including spikes) or you will get knock. Cheers. -Shawn __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

09-11-2003, 10:42 PM	#2
pdhaudio83 Banned Donated: $10 Forum Crybaby 2001 Mazda MP3 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Posts: 11,132	Where to get it done: California John Hine Mazda San Diego CA (858) 297-4251 FLORIDA Cory Fairbanks Mazda Longwood, FL 407-339-4777 bigmazda.com Georgia Performance mazda 4285 highway 78 lilburn,GA 30047 678-252-3200 ask for Sar Kentucky Blue Grass Mazda Louisville , KY 502-895-5295 Talk to Carl in the Mazda service department Posted by Wiggles6983 Massachusetts Wellesely Mazda Wellesely, MA 781-235-6000 Minnesota Morrie's Mazda Minnetonka, MN 952-544-1999 Ask for Jay in service. Missouri John Bommarito Mazda 4190 N. Service Rd. St Peters, MO 63376 (636) 928-2300 [B]Montana Flanagan's Mazda/Jeep 1700 Stephens Missoula, MT 59801 (406) 721-1381 ; (800) 543-7051[B] Jake Sweeney Mazda 33 W. Kemper Rd. Cincinnati, Ohio (513)-782-2826 Ask for Rhonda Bradford (Service Manager). Oregon Ron Tonkin Mazda - Portland, Or 503-257-2420 Ask for Gary (service Manager), BoB(service Grunt) or Ron (MSP Tech) www.tonkin.com Rhode Island Mazda of Newport 1199 West Main Road Middletown, RI 02842 401-846-0999 Ask for Angelo South Carolina John Finger Mazda 2512 Laurens Road (Across from Best Buy) Greenville, SC 29607 864-458-3500 Talk to Stan Shockley in service dept. Virginia Brown's Fairfax Mazda Fairfax, VA 703-385-8170 www.fairfaxmazda.com Wisconsin Russ Darrow Mazda 3520 S 108th St Milwaukee 414-329-5800

09-12-2003, 08:59 AM	#7
msp_driver Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Spring(Houston) Posts: 56	Munday Mazda's service manager is sick so no one knows what goin on so For the Houston area: MAZDA OF KINGWOOD 22565 EASTEX FREEWAY KINGWOOD, TEXAS 77339 Phone: 281-312-6200

09-12-2003, 08:59 AM	#8
FunSpeed Registered User MazdaSpeed 2003.5 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lake Mary, FL Posts: 108	Just got back from the dealer where I got reflahsed. The flash took about 1 hour to complete and there is a difference. I live about 20 mins. from the dealer and in that time frame, I noticed the gains. From about 3000 rpm to redline, the car has more power. You step on the throttle and it goes, no more hesitation. I hope that this reflash helps everyone and that it lasts. Kevin

09-12-2003, 10:18 AM	#10
StlMSP Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 15	More St. Louis Flashers.... Here are 2 more for St. Louis: Bommarito Mazda West 15736 Manchester Road Ellisville, MO 63011 Phone: (636) 391-8822 Fax: (636) 227-9340 Bommarito Mazda South 6127 South Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63123 Phone: (314) 487-9800 Fax: (314) 487-3855 Good luck everyone!!!!! Mike __________________ Black MSP #463 JL Audio Sub Sirius Radio Stock (FOR NOW)

09-12-2003, 11:00 AM	#12
CarlM2 Registered User Mazdaspeed Pro Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NC Posts: 253	As of today, Millenium Mazda in Durham, NC claims that the update is not available to them. They claim to have tried to find it but, it wasn't where they looked. Oh well. Maybe one day. __________________ "It's hard for the layperson to differentiate schizophrenic ramblings like 'Modernity chunk where the sink goes flying on the ping-pang' from legitimate terminology like 'Unstable equilibria lie on the nodal points of a separatrix in phase space.'" -The Onion

09-12-2003, 11:15 AM	#13
servoeyes Rocket Scientist-at large Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Burlington, CT Posts: 2,870	I posted in the CT section regarding local dealers, but my crew has dropped the ball on it, so here's our local list as of now: Connecticut Modern Mazda Thomaston, CT Morande Mazda Manchester, CT Dworkin Mazda Derby, CT Hopefully my local peeps will drop some more knowledge as it comes along. __________________ NEPOC member

09-12-2003, 01:15 PM	#14
122 Vega Retired MSP Racer! 03 Mazdaspeed Protege #1668, 2004 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 2,240	Just so you all know, there is a sticker inside the engine compartment showing the flash has been done. They will open your hood. Britt __________________ Falken Azenis 235/40/17, TWM short Shifter/ Urethane Bushings, Indigo Pullies, Nology Wires, Oddessy P680MT Battery (13lbs), Wedge Seat Brackets, GT Spec Front Upper Strut Bar, Custom Swaybar Endlinks

09-12-2003, 02:04 PM	#15
OrngSpd03 Generally Confused Member 2003 MazdaSpeed, Spicy Orange Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alton, IL (St. Louis Area) Posts: 211	Got my ECU upgrad today at Bommirto mazda in st louis, MO. The difference is night and day. also got my say bar bussings fixed, no more clunking. __________________

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