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How to file a complaint against 2Loww
This thread is designed to show you how to file a complaint against 2Loww through the United States FBI. I talked on the phone with the FBI at length this evening, and they suggested to use this site to file our complaints. They said to have as many people affected as possible file a complaint. We may not get our money back directly, but if enough people file the complaint the FBI can prosecute Jamie directly, and maybe that alone will cause Jamie to come to his damn senses and refund our money.
I also filed with the better business bureau and i beg of you to do the same. after i post this thread im going to attempt also to spread this word to the local news agencies in Jamies town of Surrey, BC. i will pass on the word if i get a contact there as well. this guy is a piece of fucking shit, and it is our duty as americans (and some canadians) to make sure this fucking dirtbag never does business again, and hopefully gets prosecuted by the united states government. if you think this is me bullshitting or anything, its not. I talked at length with the oklahoma city FBI field office this evening and this is what they walked me through. he said our chances were not good to get the money from the goverment prosecution, but likely that this dirtbag will give us our money when he realizes he faces jail time and a ruined business life. at the very least, jamie is looking at jail time. be sure to also post in this thread: http://www.msprotege.com/vbb300/showthread.php?t=50186 ***KEEP IN MIND*** Just because you weren't in the group buy, doesn't mean you arent a witness and can't help complain to his city council, mayor, local newspapers as well. see the instructions below and please post when you have done you fair share of keeping this community safe for the future! I plead with you to help our cause!!! **************** Last edited by Matthew; 02-04-2004 at 10:49 PM. |
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FBI's Internet Fraud Center
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp 1) click on "File a complaint" 2) read the statements, check the box, and click "file a complaint" 3) fill out your information, click "next" 4) choose "Internet Auction (non delivery of goods or misrepresentation) 5) choose business 6) choose "no" 7) choose "yes" (we have proof on the forums and from AIM converstations") 8) click "next" 9) fill out the information Jamie Campbell 2Loww 9350 133 St Surrey, BC V3V 5R4 10) click "next" 11) fill out $275 12) put in your paypal transaction id number (you can find this in your account history and then click details for that paypal deduction) 13) enter the next box, for example i put "on january 17th i sent Jamie Campbell a payment of $275.00USD via paypal" 14) click "next" 15) describe professionally how we were defrauded in your own words. This is what i put, for example: As a member of www.protege5.com, myself and many others ordered body parts for our vehicles through www.2loww.com (Jamie Campbell) when he registered on our club message board. We payed via paypal (most on or before the 20th of January, myself on the 17th of January) and were garunteed product fitament and quality. When the product was recieved I noticed neither product (front lip and front grille) did not fit whatsoever. I contacted 6 body shops within my town who refused to install the lip and grille due to the fact that it was so far from fitting. I contacted Jamie@2Loww.com in regards to this matter. He offered to send me a new lip/grille for free, and told me not to return the ones i had because they would be no good to him. I asked for a full refund, in which he told me he would send a check the following Monday. On Monday he notified everyone that requested a refund to file a complaint through PayPal rather than recieve a refund directly from him. He purposely did this because we recieved the products and all complaints through paypal are invalid once you recieve the product, verified by me personally upon calling paypal.com. He then said he would issue refunds via paypal to those needing it. Now that so many people are requesting refunds due to the sheer horrible nature of his product, he now refuses to refund me my money, and will not refund anyone else their money that has recieved the product. He claims that it is our fault the product will not fit dispite the fact that he orignally said he was upset his product did not meet our standards, and the fact that all 6 body shops in my town refused to work on it due to poor quality and fitament. He is claiming this to delay us from getting our money in hopes that we will eventually give up. You will be contacted by at least 6 other people if not more complaining of the same event. 16) click next 17) choose no, but choose yes and list the link to this page: http://www.msprotege.com/vbb300/show...040#post714040 18) i choose no and clicked next 19) i entered nothing and clicked next 20) i choose submit complaint and recorded my case number |
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when youre done you should get a message like this:
Thank you for taking the time to complete a complaint with the IFCC. Your complaint has been successfully submitted. Please retain the following information for future contacts with the IFCC Complaint number: I04020422435845 Password: XXXXX and here is my message i got when i completed my complaint to the better business bureau: Thank you for completing our complaint form. The Better Business Bureau has now received a copy. If you have a question or need to contact the Better Business Bureau regarding the complaint, your file number is 9452. You can phone us at (604) 682-2711 or e-mail to onlinecomp@bbbvan.org. If the complaint is pursued by the BBB, we will be forwarding a copy of your complaint to the business directly and asking the business to respond in writing. Therefore, please allow 6 weeks for a written response from the Bureau. |
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I have also emailed the Mayor of Surrey, BC in regards to this event, listing basically the same things as above:
http://www.city.surrey.bc.ca/_Utilit...656F900CBCB%7D That is the link to get to fill out a form email to him. Choose MAYOR AND COUNCIL from the drop down box. |
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Matthew,
Apparently you have not thought this over too well yet. Considering the only people not getting refunds are you and 9 others and the only reason I am not being nice and giving the other 9 people both my product and a refund is because of YOU!. Now, 2 people have emailed me saying sorry for your bullshit and the others who non-stop flame me and that they are impressed by their orders. So your whole list here will be at max. 8 people long, INCLUDING YOURSELF and thats if all 8 people want to amuse you. I have not done a thing that could be even considered wrong here. I wish I had run with your money now that you mention it but I was stupid and sent your rude, unappreciative ass my product. Good luck matt, your an ass. Jamie Campbell |
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i also emailed the publisher of a local newspaper there, the Surrey Leader: publisher@surreyleader.com
and the publisher of the "now" newspaper: canderson@thenownewspaper.com *****GOOD NEWS***** I received this email from his local newspaper who is going to do a story about him locally in Surrey: Hi, With respect to your e-mail to our newspaper about your problems with 2loww.com, do you have a number to contact Jamie Campbell? I'd rather not send him an e-mail to start. Corry Anderson-Fennell Editor, The Now 543-5818 I called her on the phone and we spoke at length about the situtation. I warned her how nice he was, and she was really nice and promised to contact me prior to publishing the story for my comments. This only re-enforces the fact that people do give a shit about this situation, and we all need to email these newspapers and media sources. Last edited by Matthew; 02-05-2004 at 06:15 PM. |
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also, the reason youre not giving refunds is because you are a piss poor business man that has no financial backing for his shit products. so fuck off of this message board and prepare to be invesitgated. when you give us all our refunds we'll retract our complaints. you cant just revoke refunds because we complained about getting refunds, you lying, and your shitty products.
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damn right. i will dedicate at least one hour per day contacting people until they do something. i will call the tv stations and newspapers if i have to personally. i may never recover my money, but i will love the "attention" his company gets.
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ok, i just got done filing the complaint with the fbi as well. I will give them a call tomorrow as well to notify them of the wrong doing that has been going on, and to make sure they received my claim.
Matt, what number did you call? Please pm me or post it here so i can call tomorrow. I for one have always stood up for the right thing, no matter if it is at your own loss. I will not allow Jamie to get away with screwing nine people over and not get repremanded for his actions. Like you matt, i care more about making sure Jamie is investigated heavily and does not screw other people over again, rather than getting my money back. Everyone here can agree that this has gone WAY to far and long and it will now soon end. Jamie, you should have just been the bigger man,admitted to yuor mistake, and refunded the people their money. Now because of your selfish, childish antics, you my friend have just jeopardized your reputation, and potential freedom if the FBI investigates you and sees that you fucked us. Hope you are happy. Seriously, if i were you i would give up while you are ahead. -B
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you will want to contact the FBI field office in Detroit, MI. (313) 965-2323
Here is the link for everyone else: http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm#cities |
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but i just had to say....that was a REALLY mature comment.... kinda reminds me of a 1st grader... way to try and get everyone to turn on matthew, thats an AWESOME way of twisting things around..make him look like the bad guy, not you....
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dont worry, i think ive got a much better rep on this forum to say the least, im sure no one is going to blame me for that silly comment.
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haha i dont think so either matt...thats why i said *try to* do that, lol
it was just one of the most childish comments i've ever come across...
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happy b-day and pass the word of this along...also anyone that wants to email his mayor, councilman, and newspapers can because they were witnesses!
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