Read this first!!! - Rishie's FITMENT RECIPE

ARD MP5 · 11-02-2002, 12:14 PM

Hello Gentlemen.

I had posted this on the other board a very long time ago. But knowing how loyal people are to a single board I've come to find out that several are not looking into this. So here it is:

THE MATRIX: 3rd Generation Proto's

Mazda Protege5 fitment guide

215/40/17; 215/35/18
-------------
7.0" +45 and higher
7.5" +48 and higher

205/40/17
-------------
7.0" +42 and higher; Barely making it
7.5" +48 or higher, the +45 still worries me with this width on a 205.

Mazda Protege Sedan
----------------------------
Can run 2 to 3 mm less offset than the Wagon. Appears to have a little more room under the fender. As we've got no problems with wheelguuruu's 19's at all.

BEWARE OF THE PASSENGER SIDE. IT will be the first to rub. hehe. Not as much negative adjustment on that side, even with camber bolts. Based on left hand drive. hehe.

Hope this helps everyone. Please feel free to call us as we will be stocking the real good ones, quality, appearance, weight, perfect fitment. Plus you'll get your forum/club deal and the sanctity of mind that the fitment has my blessing.

Be weary of the "local tire shop" as many have not done real time fitments prior to your consultation. Not even the manufacturers who create the fitment guide for the dealers have test fitted everything. It's based on patterns with fitments in the industry. Unfortunately, our cars veer off that line just slightly but enough to be very annoying and shitty when you just bought wheels that you were told fit only to have them rub.

We are a tuning shop and therefore specialize in certain performance oriented vehicles. Therefore do multiple fitments on the same vehicles with different wheels and so forth. We weigh them loaded and unloaded, tires and wheels. It's some good info to base your decisions on.

Thanks, Rishie

PLEASE READ IT SLOW AND TAKE NOTES. THIS IS A NO BULLSHIT POST. ALL OF THE INFO AND STIPULATIONS ARE INDICATED.

rmedoc · 11-04-2002, 11:35 PM

Ok Rishie, you seem to be the man when it comes to rims and tires. I have seen great answers to everyone's questions, and most of the people thank you for the answers.
So, I, being completely wheel stupid when it comes to sizes and stuff, looked at your last post, and am still a little confused, hoping you can help.
I want to buy the rims that are attached in the pic below. They are Excel DL-46's in a 17X7 size. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out which ones to get, when it comes to bolt patterns, offset, yada yada yada. Some guy (i wish I could remember his name, 'cause I would shoot him) said that if I want 16" rims, go with a 4 bolt pattern, and with 17" size, go 5 bolt. Is there any truth to this at all??
Ok, almost done picking your brain(hopefully this will help others as dumb as me, if there are any!) Also, what tire size do you recommend? 205/40/17's or 215/45/17's? My car is not lowered, but may decide to install an eibach lowering kit later.
Last question, I have heard that you have some of the greatest deals available for rims, and was wondering if you carry these, and how much the would cost me with shipping to Hawaii. I will not be buying them for a few more months, but I am trying to get an estimate on how much to save. The best I could find now was for $899 for the rims and tires, plus $125 shipping to good ol' HI.
Thanks for you help man, I really apprecaite it. Like I said, I am new to this whole thing, and just trying to learn as much as I can.

rmedoc · 11-04-2002, 11:37 PM

oops, lets try that post again

ArkosP5 · 11-05-2002, 07:51 AM

Can you give us fitments for the stock 16" tires on a P5? I need new rubber soon, but won't be buying new rims.

ARD MP5 · 11-05-2002, 12:37 PM

Thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately I'm out of town right now but when I return in less than a week i will get you some answers. Depending on the offset of the wheel you may or may not be able to fit it. I will have to look into this for you.

As for tire sizes the offset will depict whether or not you can do a 205/40/ or 215/40 but no 45 series.

Arkos, I can't remember if our stock wheel is 6" wide or 6.5" wide. If it is 6.5" wide you can upgrade to a 205/45/16. If not I would suggest remaining with the stock tire size of 195/50/16. Ask someone on the board as my car is not with me.

Later, Rishie

ArkosP5 · 11-05-2002, 01:08 PM

Thanks Rishie

Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire?

Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

StuttersC · 11-05-2002, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArkosP5
Thanks Rishie

Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire?

Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

Um, I think they are 195s...Did you look at your tire??

Sir Nuke · 11-07-2002, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ArkosP5
Thanks Rishie

Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire?

Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

the width of the stock tires are 195's

and the width of the stock 16" wheels are 6 inch.

ARD MP5 · 11-15-2002, 12:16 AM

Yup, you sure can. Check out our MP3 at the SEMA show in Vegas. And yes we are a Volk distributor.

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpub...elected=112078

Rishie

ARD MP5 · 11-15-2002, 12:17 AM

Minus · 11-27-2002, 12:06 AM

links didnt work

ARD MP5 · 12-02-2002, 10:06 PM

We were missing a couple stickers at this time. The car looks a little different now.

Rishie

Andres · 12-04-2002, 11:09 PM

But they would fit ?

I love to do some hard-cornering, but hate to hear tires rubbing the car or things like that...
Is it possible to turn around corners hard with 19s and really low suspensions ???
Don't like air-suspensions...

Thanks in advance for the details in offsets, widths, and tire brand options and measurements. Preferably I would like to have ultra-lite forged wheels...

FEDE.

melicha8 · 12-04-2002, 11:27 PM

Andres that sounds like a physical impossibility unless you plan to do some fender rolling and repositioning of the struts. 18s...19s can you tell the difference all that much?

ARD MP5 · 12-05-2002, 01:28 AM

It's not impossible, but is also relative to what you consider to be really low suspension. Sean's MP3 is real low in my opinion and he's driven the shit out of that thing at that ride height. For testing purposes only though.

Remember that it's the rear of the P5 that is different. The fronts are the same. But who would want to buy different offsets for the front and rear. Well I would but that's just me. I'd want a thinner wheel track in the rear to get that f***r to rotate. hehe.

If you get the right offset it could work. You'd run a 215/35/19 obviously and can't slam your shit as much as a 17" or 18" wheel because you're an inch taller no matter what with the 19. But it's possible.

Give me an idea of how low you're talking. Measure from the ground to the front and rear of your sideskirt. I just want to hyptohesize this for shits and giggles.

There are 7" wide 19's now so that makes things quite a bit easier to work out. Still very limited but it'll all be there on the website in the next month. Woo Hoo. Finally a damn website. I probably should have caved in sooner.

Laters, Rishie

11-02-2002, 12:14 PM	#1
ARD MP5 Boostd5 Donated: $50 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA. 95110 Posts: 2,191	Rishie's FITMENT RECIPE Hello Gentlemen. I had posted this on the other board a very long time ago. But knowing how loyal people are to a single board I've come to find out that several are not looking into this. So here it is: THE MATRIX: 3rd Generation Proto's Mazda Protege5 fitment guide 215/40/17; 215/35/18 ------------- 7.0" +45 and higher 7.5" +48 and higher 205/40/17 ------------- 7.0" +42 and higher; Barely making it 7.5" +48 or higher, the +45 still worries me with this width on a 205. Mazda Protege Sedan ---------------------------- Can run 2 to 3 mm less offset than the Wagon. Appears to have a little more room under the fender. As we've got no problems with wheelguuruu's 19's at all. BEWARE OF THE PASSENGER SIDE. IT will be the first to rub. hehe. Not as much negative adjustment on that side, even with camber bolts. Based on left hand drive. hehe. Hope this helps everyone. Please feel free to call us as we will be stocking the real good ones, quality, appearance, weight, perfect fitment. Plus you'll get your forum/club deal and the sanctity of mind that the fitment has my blessing. Be weary of the "local tire shop" as many have not done real time fitments prior to your consultation. Not even the manufacturers who create the fitment guide for the dealers have test fitted everything. It's based on patterns with fitments in the industry. Unfortunately, our cars veer off that line just slightly but enough to be very annoying and shitty when you just bought wheels that you were told fit only to have them rub. We are a tuning shop and therefore specialize in certain performance oriented vehicles. Therefore do multiple fitments on the same vehicles with different wheels and so forth. We weigh them loaded and unloaded, tires and wheels. It's some good info to base your decisions on. Thanks, Rishie PLEASE READ IT SLOW AND TAKE NOTES. THIS IS A NO BULLSHIT POST. ALL OF THE INFO AND STIPULATIONS ARE INDICATED. __________________

11-05-2002, 12:37 PM	#5
ARD MP5 Boostd5 Donated: $50 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA. 95110 Posts: 2,191	Thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately I'm out of town right now but when I return in less than a week i will get you some answers. Depending on the offset of the wheel you may or may not be able to fit it. I will have to look into this for you. As for tire sizes the offset will depict whether or not you can do a 205/40/ or 215/40 but no 45 series. Arkos, I can't remember if our stock wheel is 6" wide or 6.5" wide. If it is 6.5" wide you can upgrade to a 205/45/16. If not I would suggest remaining with the stock tire size of 195/50/16. Ask someone on the board as my car is not with me. Later, Rishie __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

11-15-2002, 12:16 AM	#9
ARD MP5 Boostd5 Donated: $50 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA. 95110 Posts: 2,191	Yup, you sure can. Check out our MP3 at the SEMA show in Vegas. And yes we are a Volk distributor. http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpub...elected=112078 Rishie __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

11-15-2002, 12:17 AM	#10
ARD MP5 Boostd5 Donated: $50 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA. 95110 Posts: 2,191	__________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

11-27-2002, 12:06 AM	#11
Minus Zoom Zoom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fort Payne, Alabama Posts: 1,829	links didnt work __________________ Latest update, selling my car.... 6-14-2004 a day that will forever change my life

11-04-2002, 11:35 PM	#2
rmedoc Still Deployed, DAMMIT! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elizabethtown, KY Posts: 509	Ok Rishie, you seem to be the man when it comes to rims and tires. I have seen great answers to everyone's questions, and most of the people thank you for the answers. So, I, being completely wheel stupid when it comes to sizes and stuff, looked at your last post, and am still a little confused, hoping you can help. I want to buy the rims that are attached in the pic below. They are Excel DL-46's in a 17X7 size. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out which ones to get, when it comes to bolt patterns, offset, yada yada yada. Some guy (i wish I could remember his name, 'cause I would shoot him) said that if I want 16" rims, go with a 4 bolt pattern, and with 17" size, go 5 bolt. Is there any truth to this at all?? Ok, almost done picking your brain(hopefully this will help others as dumb as me, if there are any!) Also, what tire size do you recommend? 205/40/17's or 215/45/17's? My car is not lowered, but may decide to install an eibach lowering kit later. Last question, I have heard that you have some of the greatest deals available for rims, and was wondering if you carry these, and how much the would cost me with shipping to Hawaii. I will not be buying them for a few more months, but I am trying to get an estimate on how much to save. The best I could find now was for $899 for the rims and tires, plus $125 shipping to good ol' HI. Thanks for you help man, I really apprecaite it. Like I said, I am new to this whole thing, and just trying to learn as much as I can.

11-04-2002, 11:37 PM	#3
rmedoc Still Deployed, DAMMIT! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elizabethtown, KY Posts: 509	oops, lets try that post again

11-05-2002, 07:51 AM	#4
ArkosP5 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 369	Can you give us fitments for the stock 16" tires on a P5? I need new rubber soon, but won't be buying new rims.

11-05-2002, 01:08 PM	#6
ArkosP5 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 369	Thanks Rishie Anyone happen to know the width of the stock P5 tire? Also, .. Rishie: when you get back in town, can you quote me some prices?

12-02-2002, 10:06 PM	#12
ARD MP5 Boostd5 Donated: $50 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA. 95110 Posts: 2,191	Auto R & D at SEMA w/19's We were missing a couple stickers at this time. The car looks a little different now. Rishie __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'.

12-04-2002, 11:09 PM	#13
Andres New project Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 260	I would love 19s on my P5...! But they would fit ? I love to do some hard-cornering, but hate to hear tires rubbing the car or things like that... Is it possible to turn around corners hard with 19s and really low suspensions ??? Don't like air-suspensions... Thanks in advance for the details in offsets, widths, and tire brand options and measurements. Preferably I would like to have ultra-lite forged wheels... FEDE. __________________

12-04-2002, 11:27 PM	#14
melicha8 Crafty Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,017	Andres that sounds like a physical impossibility unless you plan to do some fender rolling and repositioning of the struts. 18s...19s can you tell the difference all that much? __________________ Your signature here only 5.00/mo.

12-05-2002, 01:28 AM	#15
ARD MP5 Boostd5 Donated: $50 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Silicon Valley, CA. 95110 Posts: 2,191	It's not impossible, but is also relative to what you consider to be really low suspension. Sean's MP3 is real low in my opinion and he's driven the shit out of that thing at that ride height. For testing purposes only though. Remember that it's the rear of the P5 that is different. The fronts are the same. But who would want to buy different offsets for the front and rear. Well I would but that's just me. I'd want a thinner wheel track in the rear to get that f**r to rotate. hehe. If you get the right offset it could work. You'd run a 215/35/19 obviously and can't slam your shit as much as a 17" or 18" wheel because you're an inch taller no matter what with the 19. But it's possible. Give me an idea of how low you're talking. Measure from the ground to the front and rear of your sideskirt. I just want to hyptohesize this for shits and giggles. There are 7" wide 19's now so that makes things quite a bit easier to work out. Still very limited but it'll all be there on the website in the next month. Woo Hoo. Finally a damn website. I probably should have caved in sooner. Laters, Rishie __________________ Sigs are visible only in your first post on a page. To change your thread display preferences, click here and enable 'Always Show Signature'. Last edited by ARD MP5; 12-05-2002 at 01:30 AM.*

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